Hp tuners my friend....
But that will be a feat in itself tog et the car to run 1000cc injectors right....
and it'd be like a 12% loss....
but anyway chris knows what he is doing and has covered every aspect
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You mentioning about NOT disclosing your info to others and wanting people to spend money for their own R&D and stuff?? Just like you have?
Greedy man that is all I can say very Greedy.
This is my fellow JBOers is why we will always fall short of Honda and Mitsu owners and many others because of people and attitudes like this and not wanting to share opinions and things that work.
But you are gonna make the other person spend all the money just cause YOU had to, damn I am totally opposite of that, so sad.
Everyone here is out to make some money or something on us so last thing we need is spending even money on R&d.
I can care less what is done to your motor, oiling is not an issue in my L61 or my LSJ so I don't need a tissue here, but at least don't be a little fairy and PM some that do care, but you are TEAM TOP SECRET AH? lol
Anyways man, you think you got it all figured out on how to make 500-600 whp, but I say you are at least $3000-4000 away from it, given that the motor holds.
Ever driven a 400 whp FWD car?? lol seems like yours is set up so nicely for 600 with no chassis work or anything, anyways I am done here.
At least tell people that wanna know don't be so selfish. At the end of the day never forget you still ONLY DRIVE A SUNFIRE/CAVALIER.
One more rant before I go HP tuners SUCKS ASS, you think you will be able to tune in your car with HP, oh man are you in for a suprise,man you better tell me you are running an AEM or Haltec or something.
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You know, Yasmin. I had a big long post typed up for you and suddenly realized, I didn't care to explain myself to you.
Go ahead and believe what you want, whatever puts you to sleep at night I guess. This post isn't about what you think it's about what I'm doing - period.
Go play with your old ecotec pistons you ran lean on - you know since you're a clear tuning genious.
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SunCavi_L61T3/T04E wrote:At the end of the day never forget you still ONLY DRIVE A SUNFIRE/CAVALIER.
haha
guess what so do you!!
I can understand why he's not disclosing everything, I've seen his work get copied, copying is one thing, lying and not giving someone you got the ideas from is my guess why he doesn't want to share his information anymore. Too many ungreatful pricks on this site.
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Hey Chris, when do I pick up the keys... I believe you said it was mine a year ago .... hehe
Damn, sounds nice Chris.. Since yours is running, come down to Ohio to help me figure out why my built LD9 won't stay started uner 1k RPM!! lolol.. Thanks man,
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SunCavi_L61T3/T04E wrote:You mentioning about NOT disclosing your info to others and wanting people to spend money for their own R&D and stuff?? Just like you have?
Greedy man that is all I can say very Greedy.
This is my fellow JBOers is why we will always fall short of Honda and Mitsu owners and many others because of people and attitudes like this and not wanting to share opinions and things that work.
But you are gonna make the other person spend all the money just cause YOU had to, damn I am totally opposite of that, so sad.
Everyone here is out to make some money or something on us so last thing we need is spending even money on R&d.
I can care less what is done to your motor, oiling is not an issue in my L61 or my LSJ so I don't need a tissue here, but at least don't be a little fairy and PM some that do care, but you are TEAM TOP SECRET AH? lol
Anyways man, you think you got it all figured out on how to make 500-600 whp, but I say you are at least $3000-4000 away from it, given that the motor holds.
Ever driven a 400 whp FWD car?? lol seems like yours is set up so nicely for 600 with no chassis work or anything, anyways I am done here.
At least tell people that wanna know don't be so selfish. At the end of the day never forget you still ONLY DRIVE A SUNFIRE/CAVALIER.
One more rant before I go HP tuners SUCKS ASS, you think you will be able to tune in your car with HP, oh man are you in for a suprise,man you better tell me you are running an AEM or Haltec or something.
VERY TRUE and coming from someone who has walked the line.
oh my GOD...ppl, quit bickering! ive known chris for a while, and i can tell you that his 500whp is GOING to happen and i can VOUCH for him-he's told me some of the engine mods over the last year. believe me, if all goes well..HE WILL HIT THE NUMBER.
why even argue about it? he's obviously done way more then the average j owner to his car...give him props for that for gods sake. IMO even if he doesnt hit 500, or even 400- it would still be one of the best built 2.4's ever created.
so, plz ppl support this man and his goals, after all- were all here because we love our j's....and want to see everybody succeed-and nothing else should matter.
-brad
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I dont know why everybody thinks this is so unreachable. Mike Karas had a far lighter build, and far less tuning tools available to him, and he hit waht, 400? The motor Chris has combined with his tuning strategy, he should be there no problem. Obviously handling a 500+ hp FWD car is going to be a little insane, it isnt impossible. There are things to get around taht, like a very high powerband, which will keep stress off of things in the low end, key to longevity of such things like axles and tranny, and will keep wheelspin down. Of course there will still be plenty of wheelspin on hard acceleration, but nothing that cant be dealt with. His goal was 500hp, not a 9 second 500hp car. Yasmin, you achieved 350hp with MINIMAL tuning, fmu and safc, FAR FAR FAR less tuning ability than Chris's strategy. It sounds like somebody is getting a little jelous here. Tell me why he NEEDS a standalone? What, to say that he has it? Sure the fuel tuning based on map would be nice, but, like he said, he will have it just fine with fmu coupled with hp-tuners, and less the 2 grand extra it would cost for a standalone, plus all of the wiring.
HP Tuners has it's limitations, chris and I both know this, thats why he has the fmu to help with it. Unfortunatley I will be even stretching the boundries of hp tuners with my mild build. Thats how it is, plain and simple....
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The FMU he is using has absolutely NOTHING to do with him tuning the car and reaching his goal. It's specificlly for the usage of his two stage boost controller, as HPT will NOT tune up to a declared psi like most other software applications. The bottom line is Hptuners will tune all the power anyone will ever make on this platform for far less than a standalone, but you need to know how to use it..
Blew it up, build numbers coming soon
QBE (The Boosted One) wrote:HP Tuners has it's limitations, chris and I both know this, thats why he has the fmu to help with it. Unfortunatley I will be even stretching the boundries of hp tuners with my mild build. Thats how it is, plain and simple....
I can guarentee you won't.
Blew it up, build numbers coming soon
Damm...nice build. Now lets drop the arguments and lets see some more pics.
Well Chris, its been a long road to get to this point. Ignore all the jealousy of some people and focus on your goals. We will get this tranny back in this weekend and you will drive the car next week to start the break-in procedure. All I gotta do now is get your tranny back to you!
coming from a neutral standpoint in this whole ordeal, not knowing any stories, not knowing anything and really not caring much at all about what really is going on.
i can see both points of arguments coming from some and i can see your point sweetnessGT.
i do believe that you have every right to want to keep things secret and not have people copy you, it is respectable when you have done things that no one else has done and have the capacity to back your claims up, however i do see a great point in what...suncavi? i think was saying, that sharing information among this site would be of great help to those who actually want to perform rather than just make their econobox LOOK good or fast.
people have no respect for our cars now and what are the chances that maybe someone will run into a decently fast cavalier, heck i've been hanging out with j-bom and half of their cars are boosted and quite fast. but still on the street everyday you don't see them. if what you are doing can help out our "scene" or someone make their car pretty quick if you will, why not share some information, or some know how?
it is just the internet, who cares what is said and done here or if someone does something that copies you, live your life and know what you have accomplished. don't live life thru the net trying to be billy bad-a**
*edit* not that your trying to be billy but i'm just saying...
just my .02
*2nd edit for spelling errors
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gtpsunfire wrote:Well Chris, its been a long road to get to this point. Ignore all the jealousy of some people and focus on your goals. We will get this tranny back in this weekend and you will drive the car next week to start the break-in procedure. All I gotta do now is get your tranny back to you!
LOL ya get it done allready...geesh
I agree w/ T2 completely, plus only the ones who are/were dedicated enough as you were will acutally take into consideration what you have done to your motor anyway......sure EVERYONE wants to know whats done and what parts were used but how many of these people are really going to copy what you did......1% if that.....
Fast97z24 wrote:oh my GOD...ppl, quit bickering! ive known chris for a while, and i can tell you that his 500whp is GOING to happen and i can VOUCH for him-he's told me some of the engine mods over the last year. believe me, if all goes well..HE WILL HIT THE NUMBER.
why even argue about it? he's obviously done way more then the average j owner to his car...give him props for that for gods sake. IMO even if he doesnt hit 500, or even 400- it would still be one of the best built 2.4's ever created.
so, plz ppl support this man and his goals, after all- were all here because we love our j's....and want to see everybody succeed-and nothing else should matter.
-brad
This is mostly the reason why I dont post much on the org. I've seen a lot of stupid bickering that took place on the org since I became a member of the j-body. org since 1998-99. I mostly read and move on.
T2 wrote:coming from a neutral standpoint in this whole ordeal, not knowing any stories, not knowing anything and really not caring much at all about what really is going on.
i can see both points of arguments coming from some and i can see your point sweetnessGT.
i do believe that you have every right to want to keep things secret and not have people copy you, it is respectable when you have done things that no one else has done and have the capacity to back your claims up, however i do see a great point in what...suncavi? i think was saying, that sharing information among this site would be of great help to those who actually want to perform rather than just make their econobox LOOK good or fast.
people have no respect for our cars now and what are the chances that maybe someone will run into a decently fast cavalier, heck i've been hanging out with j-bom and half of their cars are boosted and quite fast. but still on the street everyday you don't see them. if what you are doing can help out our "scene" or someone make their car pretty quick if you will, why not share some information, or some know how?
X2
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