SweetnessGT wrote:My problem has to do with the heat treatment done to the crank timing chain gears.
Sadly another vendor screwing the pooch has sidelined my plans, and I now definitely won't get everything done by the end of October - but them's the breaks! You have to turn grapes into grapejuice I guess eh?
I hear ya, I've had similar problems with "outsourcing" part jobs on my build. Dealing with multiple parties and trying to make sure everything fits well together with a one-off job like these is a game of simon-says, and some people are cheating lol.
SweetnessGT wrote:Btw - Mantapart / RSM : Great customer service? hahah. no. 
Oddly enough, many people never had service problems with them (especially if they lived nearby). I never dealt directly with them, bought all their parts second-hand (but most of the time still brand new), so I have no direct insight there. I just know the parts I have from them suck lol.
SweetnessGT wrote:And as your sig says: Better a delay than a disaster. 
Definately. I'm going on 3+ years now with my engine build.
fortune cookie say:
better a delay than a disaster.
Sweetness........ which gear is it? The Timing chain drive gear, or the Pump Drive Gear?
Glad you tracked the issue down before it caused to much damage.
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My god, the idiocy.
The engine that Sweetness claims will make 500whp in daily driver condition, and was not just built well but rather better than any other J engine ever, and has had every single part scruntinize and redesigned to far better specifications, and not to mention has had the oil system extensively modified beyond anything anyone has ever thought of before...
Fails in 1800 miles due to an oiling problem????
Add this to the beer test....
and from this point forward the only true test of a high performance engine shall be having a beer sit still on the battery combined with premature failure.
Once you can do those 2, then you are truly on your way to record setting performance
I guess that why Js are considered such poor performance cars. The greatest majority of gm builds will last over 100k miles and probably do a less than perfect job of balancing a beer on the battery, especially after a few miles.
I think I once read that all Vipers, Lamborghinis, Vettes, GTs, Ferraris, and Porsches fail their engines at less than 1200 miles. So you know they are true performance cars.
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Hey - Idiot.
learn to read.
The engine didn't fail.
Did that get through to you or are you really that braindead....?
Henceforth Protomec is known as Protobaby the whining yankee b!tch - or Protoidiot as a shortform. You know because he's too stupid to know how to READ.
Since you feel like titling everything you know nothing about, that's your new title - and we'll figure the new way to measure social skills on the .org is to compare it to the blubbing moron from Michigan who, for reasons untold, is too full of himself and too dumb to read posts to see past his one sided and CLEARLY misguided opininions that are unfounded, incorrect, and downright stupid.
Stick to building 13 second engines, Protoidiot.
-Chris-
-Sweetness-
-Turbocharged-
Slowly but surely may some day win this race...
Hope you get all the bugs worked out buddy.
Good luck and cant wait to see it fully done.
If the car cannot be driven and is being repaired... IT FAILED.
If the part causing the issue is an engine part... THE ENGINE FAILED.
Just because you caught the problem before significant damage was done does not mean it didn't fail.
I guess I'll add a few parts of an IM the was forwarded to me a few months before the engine was finished. Just for giggles. I deleted all the replies to protect the innocent.
SunfighterGT98: Bunch of @!#$ know-it-alls.
-I tried to warn Josh.
-He won't listen. Whatever.
-All I'm asking is he sits down and looks at the block and thinks why stock the LD9 is teh suckage.
-exactly.
-well a lot of it is in the oiling galleries.
-which brian said are "fine"
-they most @!#$ certainly are NOT.
-the oiling in the head is poor.
-oil does NOT get back down to the pan fast enough.
-again another thing he overlooked and I won't mention on the .org
-in fact
-the main reason the LD9 fails is bad oil passages in the block and oil doesn't get back down to the pan fast enough.
-All these guys "building" their motors with rods and pistons think clevite 77's will make their cars bulletproof...
- yeah the pump needs upgrading.
-but it's not the main cause of failure.
-just fixing the passages gives you 15 psi more oil pressure on the stock pump. I've seen it with my own eyes.
-Yes. Seen it on two motors.
-warmed up oil pressure becomes 35- 40 psi.
-under load goes up to 55 instead of 35.
-put in a better poump and it's up at 65-70 under load.
-which is what is needed.
-Mine idled as low as 10psi some days.
(when all else fails... there's always name calling)
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Sorry, was just singing the smurfs theme. Back to your fighting...
And none of the insults being hurled my way prove me wrong about this, nor do they prove me off base in the slightest.
hookers and 3rd grade name calling have nothing to do with 500 whp. or quality of work.
I don't know about anyone else here, but if I was paying 5 figures (as per his IM claims) for an engine, I would expect it to work.
500whp for $500... yeah its going to have big issues.
500whp for over $10000. It better not have issues. Also of note is that he claimed "everything" had been perfectly worked before it was built. Unlike what he claims are the misguided, mismatched, (and mis-anything else) engines built by others who have made big power.
Since he has NEVER MADE 500WHP, 300whp for over $10000!!! How could anyone ever justify it failing because "any one has built an engine with as much custom work as Chris and not had a problem or 2 or 3 arise."?
It also disturbs me that he claims he's doing it just for himself when I see 10 pages a thread bragging about it. Then it does fail, even if its only temporarily, and he drops back for weeks so no one will find out.
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Keep "not" taking the internet seriously idiot.
$10,000? Ok so now you're my accountant? Clearly, as always, you're incorrect. That's not what I paid.
Seems a lot of things disturb you. You've actually been proven wrong many times. As for protecting the innocent, you did a shoddy job, as I have all my IM's.
Keep making assumptions, misinterpretations, having a badly biased and incorrect opinion and being a prick. It doesn't bother me. What makes me laugh is that you're still crying and crying over spilt milk that has never had a single thing to do with you.
Go back to sticking 2.3 parts into 2.4 engines and thinking it's the best thing you can do.
-Chris-
-Sweetness-
-Turbocharged-
Slowly but surely may some day win this race...
No crying, just trying to keep the focus on the truth
"Go back to sticking 2.3 parts into 2.4 engines and thinking it's the best thing you can do."
And I suggest you go back to trying to fix your car.
You have all your IMs?
Cool. Post some up. I'm sure that many will be even more entertaining than ones forwarded to me.
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I agree with protomec, if it is truely a quality built engine and it takes a long time to build, it should not have any issues. If it does have issues like that, then somebody didnt take their time focusing on all of the parts, so it isnt really quaility then. Im from michigan to, and this is where most of the hardcore racing began, milan is on of the best quarter mile trakes around, and if something like that happened to their engine, their engine failed.
You guys seriously think that if it is such a well built and high priced engine that it should have absolutely no hickups? You are truly idiots then. You ever see that special on Speed Channel titled "The making of a sportscar"? It was about the new 6 series BMW, they spent about 4-5 years making this thing, they finally get it driving, take it for a test drive and there was a list of about 15 things that needed to be addressed-immediately. I look at this the same way, this engine is basically built from the ground up. I know that Chris didnt expect it to not have any hickups, neither did I or anybody else around here that helped with his car. This setback is a hickup, thats all, it will be solved and we can all move on with our lives. Maybe even Protomec can seeing as this seems to be his whole life right about now.
So Proto, take a deeeeeeep breathe, splash some water on your face, put on your sunglasses and walk towards the door, be careful, the sun is bright when you first go outside, but you will adjust.
gtpsunfire wrote:You guys seriously think that if it is such a well built and high priced engine that it should have absolutely no hickups? You are truly idiots then. You ever see that special on Speed Channel titled "The making of a sportscar"? It was about the new 6 series BMW, they spent about 4-5 years making this thing, they finally get it driving, take it for a test drive and there was a list of about 15 things that needed to be addressed-immediately. I look at this the same way, this engine is basically built from the ground up. I know that Chris didnt expect it to not have any hickups, neither did I or anybody else around here that helped with his car. This setback is a hickup, thats all, it will be solved and we can all move on with our lives. Maybe even Protomec can seeing as this seems to be his whole life right about now.
So Proto, take a deeeeeeep breathe, splash some water on your face, put on your sunglasses and walk towards the door, be careful, the sun is bright when you first go outside, but you will adjust.
you make very very significant points. crap like this happens. ALWAYS. no matter how good you are
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wow look what I've been missing good luck Chris honestly @!#$ happens you'll figure it out same goes with any project everything once failed if it went well all the time think where JBO would be it wouldnt be cause we'd all realize they are compacts and buy something better, lol
Hey, did you guys know that the first plane ever made went right to mach 6 with absolutely no hickups at all?
terrible analogy..
considering the first planes didnt even have jet engines!
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Sorry, I bow once again to your awsomeness...
SweetnessGT wrote:Jeremy, and that's cool. Like I said I looked up to your motor and saw what you did right and what I had to do better go go that extra mile.... first off I want higher revs than stock - means you need to deal with the entire oiling and chain system. All of it. Lots of little tidbits in there... the head was drastically improved, even my manifolds were taken care of... I had to look at all aspects and ask a lot of questions to see where people had problems. A lot of heat treating went into the motor too...
I'm not bragging so much as just saying, this is what I'm doing. I don't want somebody to follow my footsteps with a near-stock engine or with rods & pistons as an upgrade... they know there's more. I want people to tear down the engine and look at it and learn by trying, instead of spoon feeding them everything right down to my paint color, which people have PM'd me for (for the interior).
I just want people to learn instead of take info and run to a shop and say "build it"... I hope this car can inspire them to do that.
Hope that makes sense bud...
And no worries I'm not running that whp daily. Whatever 10 psi gets me on the street at my low boost setting will do fine.
-Chris-
Teach us, o' most conceited, failed motor master. Teach us.
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wheres that popcorn........
SPD RCR Z -
'02 Z24 420whp
SLO GOAT -
'04 GTO 305whp
W41 BOI -
'78 Buick Opel Isuzu W41 Swap
Even with the all the setbacks, i can garantee it wont take his motor more than 2 years to get into the 13s...
i'm crying on the inside here, no seriously...
this is ignorant...
i really hate to see this site go down the #%$er like this.. WERE ON THE SAME TEAM!
knock it off already, we have enough problems in the tuner world as it is, this site is supposed to be a place where we share intrest, help eachother out, and have something to look forward to.... 90% of my personal freinds are from this site, and the car i own.. at this rate that will never happen for anyone else.. just because the platform is dead doesnt mean we cant act like mature adults and keep this board going..
who really cares.. he built an engine, it had problems.. it happens
i cant even make a grilled cheese without having an issue or two..
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