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Cadillac CTS 3.6L?
Saturday, July 15, 2006 9:58 AM
I'm not looking at the V. way out of my range. i'm just curious if anyone has nay experience with the 3.6 models. What's good and bad about them. is this engine peppy at all or a dog in this car? Any quality issues to know about?



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Re: Cadillac CTS 3.6L?
Saturday, July 15, 2006 12:18 PM
What id your range?

If its around 30k u can get a used cts-v.



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Re: Cadillac CTS 3.6L?
Saturday, July 15, 2006 1:01 PM
I have yet to see a used one down to 30k...either way they come with many many problems. Lots of weak links in the drivetrain.

The 3.6 is definitly peppy and the nice thing is that they now offer with with a 5 speed whereas before you could only get the smaller engine with the 5 speed and the 3.5 with an auto. Overall beautiful car. The new models have almost no issues and ride like a dream...



Re: Cadillac CTS 3.6L?
Saturday, July 15, 2006 1:21 PM
The rear end is about the only weak link I can think of that anyone has had issues with.



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Re: Cadillac CTS 3.6L?
Saturday, July 15, 2006 2:16 PM
And thats a huge one....People are going through them like crazy stock..There are more problems, Go visit the V forums, or you can talk to my grandpa who has one. Im not knocking the caddys because well there my favorite car, but if i was gunna buy a V it wouldnt be a 04.



Re: Cadillac CTS 3.6L?
Saturday, July 15, 2006 2:39 PM
Sappy96 wrote:What id your range?

If its around 30k u can get a used cts-v.


well that's my range, but I have yet see one for less than $36.000. And that's way more than I want spend.



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Re: Cadillac CTS 3.6L?
Sunday, July 16, 2006 11:58 AM
I have not heard any issues with the engine. What it is good, it is a 60 degree V6 which is the "natural degree" for for smoothness. I have driven this engine with a Automatic and it is indeed comparible to the uplevel 6-cylinders found in it's competitors, quick. I would expect the manual to more fun.

From GM :

3.6L V-6 (LY7 Car/Truck)
Type: 3.6L V-6
Displacement: 3564cc (217 ci)
Compression ratio: 10.2:1
Valve configuration: dual overhead camshafts (4 valves per cylinder)
Assembly site: St. Catharines, Ontario & Melbourne, Australia
Valve lifters: roller follower with hydraulic lash adjusters
Firing order: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5 - 6
Bore x stroke: 94 x 85.6 mm
Fuel system: sequential fuel injection
255 hp (190 kw) @ 6500 rpm (SRX)
255 hp (190 kw) @ 6200 rpm (CTS)
255 hp (190 kw) @ 6500 rpm (STS)
240 hp (179 kw) @ 6000 rpm ( LaCrosse )
242 hp (181 kw) @ 6000 rpm (Rendezvous)
254 lb-ft (344 Nm) @ 2800 rpm (SRX)
252 lb-ft (342 Nm) @ 3100 rpm (CTS)
252 lb-ft (342 Nm) @ 3200 rpm (STS)
225 lb-ft (305 Nm ) @ 2000 rpm ( LaCrosse )
232 lb-ft (315 Nm) @ 3500 rpm (Rendezvous)
Fuel shut off: 7000 rpm for CTS/SRX/STS; 6700 for Rendezvous, 6900 for LaCrosse
evaporative system
dual catalytic converters
positive crankcase ventilation
Buick Rendezvous
Buick LaCrosse / Allure
Cadillac CTS
Cadillac SRX (base)
Cadillac STS (base)
Block: sand-cast aluminum (319) with cast-In iron bore liners
Cylinder head: cast aluminum (319 semi permanent mold)
Intake manifold: aluminum (319 Upper, 356T6 Lower)
Exhaust manifold: high-silicon moly cast iron
Main bearing caps: sintered steel (CU infiltrated)
Crankshaft: forged steel (1038V)
Camshaft: Cast Nodular Iron
Connecting rods: sinterforged steel
four-cam continuously variable cam phasing with internal exhaust gas recirculation (EGR)
pressure-actuated piston cooling jets
torque-based engine management system
Secondary throat cut inlet ports
Fuel rail w/ internal pressure damper
Internal front cover damper plates
cartridge-style oil filter
extended life spark plugs
extended life coolant
extended-life accessory belts
Replace Mobil 1 Synthetic Engine Oil with Mineral 5W30 GF4
Oil level sensor is deleted for 2006 applications

The 3.6L V-6 VVT debuted in the 2004 CTS. In 2005, a new six-speed manual transmission was added to the powertrain lineup. It is an all-aluminum, 60-degree dual overhead cam, four-valves-per-cylinder design. Like the 2.8L V-6, it has fully variable valve timing and a dual-stage variable intake manifold. The 3.6L V-6 develops 255 horsepower at 6200 rpm and 252 lb.-ft. of torque at 3100 rpm.

The Trannies

The CTS offers two transmissions. The Aisin six-speed manual transmission is fully synchronized (including reverse), with a single overdrive. This allows for lower propshaft speeds and improved noise, vibration and harshness. The transmission is rated for 400 Nm (295 horsepower) and its unique architecture is such that the gear inertias are lower, resulting in significantly lower shift efforts compared to conventional RWD manual transmissions.

The compact, state-of-the-art 5L40-E automatic transmission features a full complement of advanced electronic control capabilities. These include a shift mode button that allows the driver to select between "sport," "winter" and "economy" modes. Another electronic feature also is a first for GM: engine braking in all five gears, giving the automatic the same sporty feel as a downshifting manual.

SPECIFICATIONS
Overview

Model:
CTS

Body style / driveline:
entry-luxury, rear-wheel drive, 4-door sports sedan

Construction:
unitized welded steel body with direct-mounted front cradle and rubber-isolated, multi-link independent rear suspension assembly

EPA vehicle class:
midsize car

Manufacturing location:
Lansing Grand River Assembly, Lansing , Michigan

Key competitors:
BMW 3 Series, Mercedes C-Class, Audi A4, Lexus ES 300, Lincoln LS


Engine

2.8L VVT V-6
3.6L V-6 VVT (LY7)

Type:
2.8L V-6 VVT (variable valve timing)
3.6L V-6 VVT (variable valve timing)

Displacement (cu in / cc):
170 / 2792
217 / 3564

Bore & stroke (in / mm):
89 x 3.5 / 74.8 x 2.94
3.7 x 3.37 / 94 x 85.6

Block material:
cast aluminum
cast aluminum

Cylinder head material:
cast aluminum
cast aluminum

Valvetrain:
dual overhead camshafts, 4 valves per cylinder, continuously variable valve timing (VVT)
dual overhead camshafts, 4 valves per cylinder, continuously variable valve timing (VVT)

Ignition system:
individual coil on plug, individual cylinder knock control
individual coil on plug, individual cylinder knock control

Fuel delivery:
returnless sequential fuel injection
returnless sequential fuel injection

Compression ratio:
10.0:1
10.2:1

Horsepower (hp / kw @ rpm):
210 / 156 @ 6500 rpm
255 / 190 @ 6200

Torque (lb-ft / Nm @ rpm):
194 / 263 @ 3200 rpm
252 / 342 @ 3100

Recommended fuel:
unleaded regular
unleaded regular

Maximum engine speed (rpm):
7000 auto, 7200 manual
7000

Emissions controls:
dual close coupled catalytic converters, positive crankcase ventilation, inlet and exhaust cam phasers with internal exhaust gas recirculation (no EGR/AIR reqd.), evaporative emissions system
dual close-coupled catalytic converters, positive crankcase ventilation, inlet and exhaust cam phasers with internal exhaust gas recirculation (no EGR/AIR reqd.), evaporative emissions system

Estimated fuel economy

(mpg city / hwy / combined):
auto:
2.8L 18 / 27
3.6L 18 / 27
manual:
2.8L 17 / 27
3.6L 17 / 27


Transmissions

Hydra-Matic 5L40-E
Aisin AY6

Type:
5-speed electronically controlled automatic with lockup torque converter
fully synchronized 6-speed manual with single overdrive

Gear ratios (:1):

First:
3.42
4.15

Second:
2.21
2.33

Third:
1.60
1.53

Fourth:
1.00
1.15

Fifth:
0.75
1.00

Sixth:
----
0.79

Reverse:
3.02
3.67

Final drive ratio:
3.42
3.42


Chassis/Suspension
Standard/Luxury Package
Sport Package

Front:
independent, short/long arm, coil-over shock, anti-roll bar
independent, short/long arm, coil-over shock, anti-roll bar

Rear:
independent, modified multi-link, coil springs, shock absorbers, anti-roll bar
independent, modified multi-link, coil springs, automatic load-leveling shock absorbers, anti-roll bar

Traction control system:
full-range
full-range

Steering type:
power-assisted rack and pinion
power-assisted rack and pinion, TRW SpeedPro variable assist system

Steering wheel turns, lock-to-lock:
3.37
3.37

Turning circle, curb-to-curb (ft / m):
35.5 / 10.8
35.5 / 10.8


Brakes

Type:
power-assist – vacuum with anti-lock control and traction control
power-assist – vacuum with antilock control, traction control, StabiliTrak stability control, with high-performance brake linings

Rotor diameter x thickness

(in / mm):
front: 11.9 x 1.3 / 303 x 32 vented disc rear: 11.7 x 1 / 298 x 26 vented disc
front: 11.9 x 1.3 / 303 x 32 vented disc rear: 11.7 x 1 / 298 x 26 vented disc


Wheels/Tires

Wheel size and type:
16-inch x 7-inch cast aluminum
17-inch x 7.5-inch cast aluminum, optional 18-inch polished

Tires:
Goodyear Eagle RS-A, P225/55HR16, all season
Goodyear Eagle RS-A, P225/50VR17, all season


Dimensions
Exterior

Wheelbase (in / mm):
113.4 / 2880

Overall length (in / mm):
190.1 / 4829

Overall width (in / mm):
70.6 / 1793

Overall height (in / mm):
56.7 / 1440

Track (in / mm):
front: 60 / 1524; rear: 60 / 1524

Curb weight (lb / kg):
3.6L manual: TBD; 3.6L automatic: 3694 / 1676

Weight distribution
(% front / rear):
53 / 47

Interior
Headroom (in / mm):
front: 38.9 / 989

rear: 36.9 / 937

Legroom (in / mm):
front: 42.4 / 1077
rear: 37 / 940

Shoulder room (in / mm):
front: 56.6 / 1438

rear: 56.2 / 1427

Hip room (in / mm):
front: 53.4 / 1356

rear: 53.8 / 1366


Capacities

EPA passenger volume
(cu ft / L):
98 / 2775

Cargo volume (cu ft / L):
12.8 / 362

Trailer towing maximum (lb / kg):
1000 / 454

Fuel tank (gal / L):
17.5 / 66.2

Engine oil (qt / L):
6 / 5.7

Cooling system (qt / L):
11.7 / 11.1







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Re: Cadillac CTS 3.6L?
Sunday, July 16, 2006 1:16 PM
Sappy96 wrote:The rear end is about the only weak link I can think of that anyone has had issues with.


Isn't the rear end the weak link in just about all the GM cars? How many how long have GM guys been using Ford rear ends? Maybe this should be a clue for GM. How about a little stronger rear ends?



Re: Cadillac CTS 3.6L?
Sunday, July 16, 2006 1:26 PM
Well I believe they are making a new IRS unit that one of the shops on LS2gto.com got a hold of for measurments and what not.



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Re: Cadillac CTS 3.6L?
Sunday, July 16, 2006 3:53 PM
Rabbit(AKA RedAssassin) wrote:
Sappy96 wrote:The rear end is about the only weak link I can think of that anyone has had issues with.


Isn't the rear end the weak link in just about all the GM cars? How many how long have GM guys been using Ford rear ends? Maybe this should be a clue for GM. How about a little stronger rear ends?


Pssssh how long have people been puttin small blocks in ford roadsters. haha get outta here with that talk j/k

I am very interested in this thread because I am trying to get my mom to buy one instead of a new Impala. So you guys are saying to get '05 or newer? she would be getting a V6 with an auto. any other comments?




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