so does the BS in the Brilliance BS6 stand for bull@!#$ excuse for a car or is it Chinese for "top secret plan to kill all the Americans."
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I'm gonna go out on a limb here that these cars won't make it onto the road... Germans don't like cars that fold up like a pita bread.
Either way, most car companies can start this way and end up with a great car in 3-4 years, every other car manufacturer has had to go though this, it's growing pains... they'll put out a decent product in a few years.
Why am I not surprised?
China is known for making incredibly crappy, unreliable, bad imitation, cheap products and now they want to go world wide with selling cars, so naturally I always wanted to see a car crash using their products, so here it is.
What is even more sad is, DCX is together with Chery (a Chinese auto company) and Chery wants to use DCX to enter our market.
Geez, their is more intrusion damage on the cabin then on the hood/doghouse/bonnet area.
Damn, I hate Chinese products.
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If they sell a car for under 10,000 or a RWD coupe for under 15,000$ they got my money. I'm looking for a car, not a tank.
Knoxfire wrote:If they sell a car for under 10,000 or a RWD coupe for under 15,000$ they got my money. I'm looking for a car, not a tank.
Even though a potential simple accident leaves you without legs?

How many steps to heaven, Doc?
...Ah, metaphysics.
what legs? i clearly see the dummy's head almost jumping out and touching the side view mirror/
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That thing folded up worse than a Dodge Neon. That's nasty
Finally.. A car that does worse than a cavalier at frontal crashes..
Red 2005 Saturn Ion-3 Coupe
Jonathan Pike wrote:Knoxfire wrote:If they sell a car for under 10,000 or a RWD coupe for under 15,000$ they got my money. I'm looking for a car, not a tank.
Even though a potential simple accident leaves you without legs?
I guess I'll have to avoid accidents then. ALL cars have risks. You think a 1970 Dodge Challenger R/T would do any better in the crash tests? Junkyards used to be littered with "death cars" back in the day. Even in the 80's cars were pretty crumply. Whatcha gonna do? Life is replete with risk. Think motorcycles are safe? How about a convertible in a rollover? Heck, even a garden variety SUV really isn't all that safe since it doesn't have to pass any of those crash tests (not the car SUVS, I mean the truck based ones) and even if they end up not crumpling like a beer can, I can guarantee a lot of pain for the driver since it must be like being dropped off a building while being locked inside a safe. In a SUV the crumple zone is you.
Anyway, the point is that driving itself poses a risk and I'm not one for the nanny culture. As long as I know beforehand the risks and can make an educated risk assessment, I'm fine with it.
avoid accidents?? so are you psychic? cuz im pretty sure by definition accidents are "an undesirable or unfortunate happening that occurs unintentionally and usually results in harm, injury, damage, or loss; casualty; mishap: automobile accidents"
... soo good luck with that!
you can be the most save, careful, alert driver alive.... but unfortunately its usually everyone else on the road you have to worry about.
i doubt our J's do alot better than those......
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The horrifying 40 mph offset frontal crash test video shows damage that can be described as catastrophic at best.
that's hilarious. I suspected these cars were crappy... just not that crappy.
Knoxfire wrote:If they sell a car for under 10,000 or a RWD coupe for under 15,000$ they got my money. I'm looking for a car, not a tank.
dear lord. what's wrong with your head?
Knoxfire wrote: Junkyards used to be littered with "death cars" back in the day.
yes, and that's why they're in the junkyard, and that's why they don't make them anymore
Knoxfire wrote: Life is replete with risk.
and that's why God gave us a brain (to ascertain and avoid risk); so again, where's your head at?
Knoxfire wrote: How about a convertible in a rollover? Heck, even a garden variety SUV really isn't all that safe since it doesn't have to pass any of those crash tests (not the car SUVS, I mean the truck based ones) and even if they end up not crumpling like a beer can, I can guarantee a lot of pain for the driver since it must be like being dropped off a building while being locked inside a safe. In a SUV the crumple zone is you.
show us some numbers.
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nucking futs , there goes my next hot rod
thats pretty crazy
The newer Cavaliers have a 4 star front crash test rating, but if you watch this video of a 95 Cavalier, it doesn't look like 4 stars.
1995 Cavalier sedan
notice the dummie's head contacting the bottom of the window frame, but it held up a little better than the Chinese car.
The neon on the other hand didn't, although it actually got a better rating than the Cavalier.
2000 Dodge Neon
It doesn't really matter anyway, cause these tests are basically an ideal collision, and really don't mean much in the real world.
Jonathan wrote:The newer Cavaliers have a 4 star front crash test rating, but if you watch this video of a 95 Cavalier, it doesn't look like 4 stars.
1995 Cavalier sedan
notice the dummie's head contacting the bottom of the window frame, but it held up a little better than the Chinese car.
The neon on the other hand didn't, although it actually got a better rating than the Cavalier.
2000 Dodge Neon
It doesn't really matter anyway, cause these tests are basically an ideal collision, and really don't mean much in the real world.
Also in 1997 GM upgraded parts of the structure in the J to meet new standards.
I've even notice that GM improved the body on more recent Js when i went to the junk yards.
Sadly IIHS and the Goverment's test only tested the 1995 model. So we really won't ever know what is its true rating.
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In either case, the J did a hell of a lot better than the Chinese car... and the head hitting the door pillar? Well, I got a 2-door, no worrying about that for me
Actually, I do remember reading somewhere that they stiffened the Jbody structure quite a bit in the 2003 makeover, but since I have no proof of that I left it out, for fear of being proved wrong.
And, hey, I crashed my Cavalier and all I had was a nylon burn on one hand from the airbag, and a little bruise. So mine did just fine.