Penske Auto Group’s Smart USA announced the pricing of the all-new smart fortwo models that will be sold in the United States beginning in the first quarter of 2008. The Smart Fortwo will be available in three trim levels. The entry-level model will start at $11,590, with standard equipment including a 5-speed manumatic transmission and remote locks. The middle model, called passion coupe, starts at $13,590, includes a panorama roof, alloy wheels, air conditioning, power windows, electric and heated side mirrors, and an AM/FM radio with CD player.
The passion cabrio will start at $16,590, with a power soft top. Other standard equipment includes a premium sound system with an in-dash mp3 compatible 6-CD changer. All models are equipped with a 71 hp, 1.0-liter, 3-cylinder engine.
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hm i like the medium trim..... but i think its kind of expensive for what it is.... then again, the gas mileage on that thing is probably incredible. I really know nothing about smart cars... so it might actually be a bargain if smart is known for quality... which i dont know lol
^^^^ 40 mpg??? Are you sure? I was gonna say 60. lol
Heck, my Ecotec gives me at least 35.
ehh a 1 liter engine that only gets 40mpg? hmm its overpriced IMO, if it was something like 60 or even 50-55, id buy it. but if it only does 40mpg... ill just stick with my cobalt
from factory website---Who is smart?
smart is a member of the Mercedes Car Group. smart vehicles are sold in 36 countries throughout the world. Over 750,000 fortwo vehicles have been sold since its introduction. When the United States starts selling the smart fortwo it will become the 37th country.
When will smart vehicles be available for purchase in the United States?
The smart fortwo is scheduled to be available in the first quarter of 2008.
What smart models will be available for purchase in the United States?
The models that will be available in the United States are the smart fortwo pure (entry-level), the smart fortwo passion coupe (well-equipped) and the smart fortwo passion cabrio (well-equipped convertible).
Product and color information is now posted on www.smartusa.com, and complete product details will be posted as soon as available.
Will any other engines or smart models be available in 2008?
The smart fortwo is the only model scheduled for production for the USA in 2008. The pure, passion coupe and passion cabrio will all come equipped with the 3-cylinder, 1-liter gasoline powered engine. Other engine types and sizes (including BRABUS) may become available in the next few years though no specific timeline has been outlined. The manufacturer has cancelled production of the smart forfour and roadster worldwide.
Where will smart vehicles be sold?
A smart USA dealer network is being established and the exact locations of the smart dealerships are expected to be announced in the second half of 2007. Once this information has been determined, it will be posted on www.smartusa.com.
How much will a smart vehicle cost?
The smart fortwo pure will start under $12,000*, the smart fortwo passion coupe will start under $14,000* and the smart fortwo passion cabrio will start under $17,000*. Exact pricing will not be determined until late 2007. Once this information has been determined, it will be posted on www.smartusa.com.
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What are the exact dimensions?
The smart fortwo is small on the outside and big on the inside.
The smart fortwo that will be available in the United States will be:
o 8.8 feet long (you can usually fit two smart fortwos in an average parking space!)
o 5.1 feet tall (the smart still has as much headroom as most luxury vehicles!)
o 5.1 feet wide (two six foot, five inch plus people can sit side by side with plenty of shoulder room to spare!)
How fast does the smart fortwo go?
The top speed of the smart fortwo is approximately 90 mph.
What is the gas mileage of smart?
Engineering and testing continues to take place on the vehicle that will be produced for the United States. The vehicle is designed to achieve 40 plus mpg under normal driving conditions and current standards. The gas tank of the smart fortwo is 8.7 gallons.
^^^^^ Thanks for the info!
I always though the smart was good for AT LEAST 60 mpg....very decieving.
If it's not all that fuel economic, what else can this box on wheels offer you???
We've had them in Canada now for a couple of years.. I always thought they had diesel engines in them.. 40mpg is pretty stupid if you ask me..
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Didn't Geo Metros pull off 50+mpg's? And even in full LSi trim sold for like $12,000 in 1994. Adjusted for inflation to 2007 money a loaded Metro would still only cost about $16,000. So The loaded FourTwo coupe starting at $14,000 is not that expensive for what it is. But there is no excuse for a car that well over engineered should post weaker city/hwy economy numbers than a car under engineered from over a decade ago.
Metro LSi FTW!!!
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We've had that car for a while. I'm not a fan. We get the smart car and yaris you guys get the GTO and EVO. ????
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$16000 for the base coupe.
I'm starting to really get pissed off that US prices are that out of line with Canadian prices...
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$16000 for the base coupe.
I'm starting to really get pissed off that US prices are that out of line with Canadian prices...
Tell me about it. I was in Niagara Falls this summer and I got almost the same amount Canadian as I gave them American. I liked it when it was around $1.50 - $1.60 Canadian.
I, too, also thought that the Smart car was supposed to have amazing fuel mileage. Heck, I can approach 40mpg on the highway in my Cobalt, and it's an auto. Plus, that car is so small that, besides the safety of it, it probably so light that it sucks in the winter.
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I, too, also thought that the Smart car was supposed to have amazing fuel mileage. Heck, I can approach 40mpg on the highway in my Cobalt, and it's an auto. Plus, that car is so small that, besides the safety of it, it probably so light that it sucks in the winter.
Exactly my thoughts except my Cobalt is a manual. Why would I pay more for a car that is smaller, fits less, and gets the same mileage?
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Smart cars are pretty funny to see booting down the 401 in traffic at 130 km/h.. haha. I swear one bad wind gust while crossing a bridge would send the little pin-ball off into oblivion. Working on them sucks though. I had to swap snows onto one and you can only put half the car up on a hoist at one time since it has the wheelbase of a skate board. 3 lug as well.. and not only that, the car has a massive stagger. Skinny-ass front wheels and wider rear wheels. Even the wheels/tires are especially specific to the car, as the snow tire rim/tire package is dealer offered for double the price of comparable set-ups for other cars.
It's basically an over-priced 'look at me I bought this because I want other people to think I'm hip and care about the environment so I can help myself sleep at night' sort of thing. There are many comparable economical cars that value and mileage per MSRP are much better.
The only thing I've seen regarding Smart cars and cool is the Brabus edition that I saw earlier in the summer. Dished out rims, solid mono-tone paint instead of random matching bits, nicer tails and HIDs. May have been someones custom Smart, but it looked properly badged and modified.
lone_wolf wrote:We've had them in Canada now for a couple of years.. I always thought they had diesel engines in them.. 40mpg is pretty stupid if you ask me..
I was pretty positive they had diesel engines too. I guess not. Unless there is more than one engine available here in Canada.
How is it even possible for something with a 1 litre engine to get only 40mpg under normal driving? I guess you'd have to rev the crap out of it to keep up with traffic.
if it had more horsepower, id say atleast 90-100, it would get better gas mileage, because that engine is probably working pretty hard to keep it going at any speed.
you know what
i like em i think they are neat little cars
and they would be perfect for the city
Pulled this off
smart.ca website..
Engine/drivetrain
3-cylinder cdi turbo diesel engine (799 cc) with charge air cooling (rear-mounted)
Electronic power management
cdi turbo diesel engine
softip - 6-speed sequential manual transmission
and also..
Fuel economy City estimate: 4.6 l/100 km
Highway estimate: 3.7 l/100 km (manual)
3.8 l/100 km (automatic)
Combined estimate: 4.2 l/100 km
Not too sure what that is in MPG.. I'm sure someone can figure it out..
The turbo diesel is the only option we have according to the site. Interesting point, on the site it says you qualify for a $2,000 tax break if you buy a Smart car.. Not bad at all.. I still wouldn't drive one though lol.
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kidduntradishunal wrote:Smart cars are pretty funny to see booting down the 401 in traffic at 130 km/h.. haha. I swear one bad wind gust while crossing a bridge would send the little pin-ball off into oblivion. Working on them sucks though. I had to swap snows onto one and you can only put half the car up on a hoist at one time since it has the wheelbase of a skate board. 3 lug as well.. and not only that, the car has a massive stagger. Skinny-ass front wheels and wider rear wheels. Even the wheels/tires are especially specific to the car, as the snow tire rim/tire package is dealer offered for double the price of comparable set-ups for other cars.
That's Mercedes Benz for you. They're not meant to be a highway runner by any means, the wheelbase is too narrow and short, and way too tall to be useful. They're a sail on highways. However, narrow & Short tires are good for the snow because it cuts through slush and other junk, unless it's those low-rolling resistance tires that you'd get on the Honda Insight, I think you'd be able to buy tires for it: They're 145/65/15 front, 175/55/15 And a look at TireRack.com shows that there are Pirellis and Continentals for the ForTwo. The other thing: Security Companies, The Commissionaires, and several other groups that do short jumps use the car... heck, the RCMP has one on site @ HQ for moving a couple of officers between HQ and A Division.
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It's basically an over-priced 'look at me I bought this because I want other people to think I'm hip and care about the environment so I can help myself sleep at night' sort of thing. There are many comparable economical cars that value and mileage per MSRP are much better.
Not really IMO, they're meant to be small, because they're designed for french streets that aren't too wide. They're also really high efficiency, and a niche car. Sure, it's trendy. It's also recyclable, low emissions, and a decent drive. Your average Versa doesn't qualify for the fuel credits, and they're also a gasoline car.
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The only thing I've seen regarding Smart cars and cool is the Brabus edition that I saw earlier in the summer. Dished out rims, solid mono-tone paint instead of random matching bits, nicer tails and HIDs. May have been someones custom Smart, but it looked properly badged and modified.
Yeah, the Brabus edition is nice. But, the body panels (black and black) can be ordered from the factory.
Jonathan wrote:lone_wolf wrote:We've had them in Canada now for a couple of years.. I always thought they had diesel engines in them.. 40mpg is pretty stupid if you ask me..
I was pretty positive they had diesel engines too. I guess not. Unless there is more than one engine available here in Canada.
How is it even possible for something with a 1 litre engine to get only 40mpg under normal driving? I guess you'd have to rev the crap out of it to keep up with traffic.
There was a 1.3L CDI diesel, but the one on the smart.ca site says it's a turbo Diesel. When I was in one, it didn't have to be revved much to get it moving. Don't forget it weighs about 2/3 what a Versa weighs, so it can be motivated by a lot smaller engine.
As already mentioned, the current Smart (the one sold in Canada) has a 799cc 40hp turbo diesel motor, and -- as Mr.Goodwrench mentioned -- the US bound/2008 smart is equipped with a larger 71hp motor... it also has larger dimensions than it's previous model. That translates into two things: more stable highway manors (so stop panicing), and lower fuel economy (just basic physics unfortunately).
The smaller first gen wouldn't fly with americans, so smart had to offer something bigger/ faster/ highway stable... and even now people complain its still too small. I swear some people will complain the smart is too small until it's the size of my Cherokee... and than they'll cry bloody murder it's fuel economy sucks. Bottom line: there is trade off to getting a larger smart.
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