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Impala SS vs. Grand Prix GXP
Sunday, November 25, 2007 7:26 AM
Well, the GF has decided that she wants something a little newer and nicer then the old GTP, so she is looking at a few cars. She started with these two first by really liking the looks of the Impala SS, which I knew had a sister in the GXP, so I told her she needs to consider it too.

Basically, how do these cars stack up against each other, and also against the competition, which would be what?

I heard that the GXP has some features that the SS doesn't. Is that true? And if so, what are they? and are they something that would make her want to buy the GXP over the better looking SS?

Also, I read the the 5.3 DOD engine requires premium gas. I wouldn't think it does, but I don't know. I do know that is something she is trying to get away from with the old GTP.

Any help and opinions here would be great guys. Thanks.





**there is only one true love in my life... and my girlfriend has learned to live with it**

Re: Impala SS vs. Grand Prix GXP
Sunday, November 25, 2007 9:44 AM
It doesn't require premium. Both cars are good choices, the impala is the H-body arcitecture shared with the Lucerne, and DTS. So there big cars. More of a touring car with muscle. The GXP is the W-body as I'm well sure your familiar with, the gxp is more sporty meaning it has crossed drilled rotors on all 4 corners, Bestein suspension, and for some strange reason 255/45 in the front and 235/50 in the rear.

They both come with full leather, but the gxp has suede inserts like the cts-v. there both the same price. The GXP has avialable navigation, I'm not sure on the Impala. The rear doors on the GXP open a full 90 degrees. They both drive really well. There both fast, it just really comes down to personal preference or what size of vehicle you need. Personally I take the GXP in black.
Re: Impala SS vs. Grand Prix GXP
Sunday, November 25, 2007 9:57 AM
If you are buying new would she hold out for the G8?
GXP is faster and from what I understand has less tq steer from the suspension setup.


The GXP has the HUD not available on the impala.
Impala comes w/ satellite radio standard available on GXP.
GXP has passenger airbag cutoff switch not available on the impala.
GXP has paddle shift not available on impala.
GXP has about 100 lbs less curb weight.



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Re: Impala SS vs. Grand Prix GXP
Sunday, November 25, 2007 10:34 AM
something to consider... a buddy of mine has a gxp and he was getting detonation on 87 octane (scanned with hp tuners) it's definetely a nice ride though!



Re: Impala SS vs. Grand Prix GXP
Sunday, November 25, 2007 10:53 AM
strat81 wrote:something to consider... a buddy of mine has a gxp and he was getting detonation on 87 octane (scanned with hp tuners) it's definetely a nice ride though!

They both have the same motor tho.



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Re: Impala SS vs. Grand Prix GXP
Sunday, November 25, 2007 11:12 AM
Thanks guys for the info.

As far as the G8, I don't really like buying new, or I would be driving and 08 CTS with AWD and direct injection engine right now, rather then waiting 3 years for some to come off lease. I hate the idea of paying so much for something that will be worth half in less the 3 years, I would rather wait a little and pay half as much.

I personally like the sporty look of the GXP better myself, but she like the classic, more luxurious look of the SS, plus, she said she likes it better as the GXP is sort of like what she has right now.

It sounds to me like the GXP has some better features and qualities, plus they are easier to come by. So, I think I will steer her in that direction.






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Re: Impala SS vs. Grand Prix GXP
Sunday, November 25, 2007 2:52 PM
your looking for trouble running regular on a LSX engine.. trust me my dad once put 87 into my trans am and the thing ran like poop ... i thought it was gonna blow...ended up pumping the gas out of the tank and putting in some 93

if i had to pick one it would be the GXP all the way but i wouldn't really recommend ether one though... they are heavy @$$ cars that get horrible gas mileage most owners average 17-18 mpg with the LS4


why don't you have her check out the mazda 3 or scion tC both great cars




Re: Impala SS vs. Grand Prix GXP
Sunday, November 25, 2007 3:37 PM
The LS4 isn't the same as the LS1. The truck engines are based on the same block and run fine with 87.

O noes!
Re: Impala SS vs. Grand Prix GXP
Sunday, November 25, 2007 4:47 PM
UnXpectedError wrote:your looking for trouble running regular on a LSX engine.. trust me my dad once put 87 into my trans am and the thing ran like poop ... i thought it was gonna blow...ended up pumping the gas out of the tank and putting in some 93

if i had to pick one it would be the GXP all the way but i wouldn't really recommend ether one though... they are heavy @$$ cars that get horrible gas mileage most owners average 17-18 mpg with the LS4


why don't you have her check out the mazda 3 or scion tC both great cars


17-18 miles to us gallon isn't bad, that is almost 25mpg to me.

As far as the Mazda 3, or the Scion, I am pretty sure those are both small economy cars. While they may be great cars for someone who wants something like that, we are looking for a full size luxury sport sedan.






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Re: Impala SS vs. Grand Prix GXP
Sunday, November 25, 2007 7:17 PM
GXP is hot



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Re: Impala SS vs. Grand Prix GXP
Sunday, November 25, 2007 8:58 PM
b0jan jebac - 8ball - wrote:GXP is hot

I agree.






Re: Impala SS vs. Grand Prix GXP
Monday, November 26, 2007 7:28 AM
Gutty96 wrote:
UnXpectedError wrote:your looking for trouble running regular on a LSX engine.. trust me my dad once put 87 into my trans am and the thing ran like poop ... i thought it was gonna blow...ended up pumping the gas out of the tank and putting in some 93

if i had to pick one it would be the GXP all the way but i wouldn't really recommend ether one though... they are heavy @$$ cars that get horrible gas mileage most owners average 17-18 mpg with the LS4


why don't you have her check out the mazda 3 or scion tC both great cars


17-18 miles to us gallon isn't bad, that is almost 25mpg to me.

As far as the Mazda 3, or the Scion, I am pretty sure those are both small economy cars. While they may be great cars for someone who wants something like that, we are looking for a full size luxury sport sedan.


17-18mpg sucks when you have to use premium, the Scion tC and Mazda 3 are bigger inside then you would imagine and both have a small upscale touch to them.
a gxp or impala isn't a full size luxury sports sedan even if GM would like you to believe that.... if you want a luxary car you would be better too look into a 03-04 Cadillac CTS , Lexus is300, 01-03 BMW 330i, Audi A4/A6, mazdaspeed 6 ..heck even check out a GTO if you can live with 2 doors

if it was me id go with the BMW or Mazdaspeed 6 (AWD FTW)




Re: Impala SS vs. Grand Prix GXP
Monday, November 26, 2007 7:59 AM
First boh are under the same platform (W).
The GXP is more purpose built, the SS is more of cruiser.
Yes, the The V8 does need premium gas.
The GXP has suspension setup that it tries its best to control FWD quirks from a high torque V8 from a re-tuned suspension that lowers the GXP approximately 9 mm. Bilstein gas-charged struts, higher-rate springs, and a 18.2-mm hollow rear stabilizer bar are also used. It also has upgraded brake system Oversized four-wheel vented disc brakes with Bosch four-channel ABS. The front wheels are eight inches wide, while and the rear wheels are seven inches wide. Tire sizes are P255/45R18 and P225/50R18 respectively. The tires are W speed-rated. Wider front wheels help the GXP achieve a more neutral cornering stance and optimize the inherent handling characteristics of a FWD vehicle. Magnasteer II are standard equipment too.
The Impala SS will make do with a flotier ride as it does not have the Bilsteins. It has a FE3 suspension, which includes 18-inch W-rated P235/50R18 AL3 (all-season performance) tires and five-spoke alloy wheels. A 34-mm hollow front stabilizer bar and 18-mm solid rear stabilizer bar combine to provide more roll control than the FE1 or FE2 suspensions. Also, increased stiffness helps reduce body lean and contributes to greater high-speed stability.

Lastly here you can read exactly what GM has to say about the two.
Goodluck.

2008 PONTIAC GRAND PRIX

New for 2008
GT model discontinued
Three new exterior colors: Gold Mist Metallic, Dark Mocha Metallic and Dark Slate Metallic


2008 PONTIAC GRAND PRIX EXCEEDS EXPECTATIONS IN SPORT SEDAN SEGMENT
Performance, functionality and a sporty profile converge in the 2008 Pontiac Grand Prix and Grand Prix GXP. No other sedan offers such a spacious interior, advanced safety and convenience features and nimbleness. Three new exterior colors have been added for 2008, including Gold Mist Metallic, Dark Mocha Metallic and Dark Slate Metallic.

The 2008 Grand Prix lineup features the well-equipped base model and the performance-minded Grand Prix GXP. The base Grand Prix is powered by the popular 3.8L V-6, producing 200 horsepower (149 kW). The 303-horsepower (226 kW) GXP is equipped with a 5.3L V-8. A four-wheel independent suspension with MacPherson struts forms the basis of the Grand Prix’s handling package, and provides a smooth, street-connected ride.

Inviting interior

Standard cloth seating and available leather surfaces on the 2008 Grand Prix provide the driver and passengers stylish comfort. Grand Prix interiors showcase climate control and HVAC outlets for the rear seat, two power outlets, rear reading lamps, electronic cruise control, a driver information center, remote keyless entry, power programmable door locks and ample interior storage.

The base Grand Prix comes standard with an AM/FM CD player, and the GXP model features an upgraded nine-speaker Monsoon system. Both models offer an additional range of excellent AM/FM stereos with CD/MP3 player, navigation system and six-CD changer.

The Grand Prix’s standard 60/40 split-folding rear seats, rear seat pass-through and an extra-wide trunk opening make it easy to carry large objects. Items as long as nine feet can be accommodated with the trunk closed when the available fold-flat front passenger seat is used. Ingress and egress is easy for passengers and cargo, with the rear door swinging open to a segment-leading 82 degrees.

Complete personalization

A number of packages are offered for the base 2008 Grand Prix that allow owners to personalize their ride inside and out. These packages expand the appeal of the Grand Prix by offering features customers expect on high-end performance sedans. Package options include:

Premium: dual-zone automatic air conditioning, leather-appointed front bucket seats with a passenger-side map pocket, front passenger flat-folding seatback, cargo net and heated driver and front passenger seats
Premium Light : illuminated visor vanity mirrors, front and rear reading lights and an overhead console with sunglass storage
Preferred: two-way driver lumbar control, remote vehicle start, cargo net, front passenger folding seatback, leather-wrapped steering wheel, steering-wheel mounted audio controls, leather-wrapped shift knob, driver information center and chrome interior accents (plus all the features included in the Premium Light package)
Security : head curtain side-impact air bags, four-wheel anti-lock, four-wheel disc brakes, Enhanced Traction System and powertrain modulation
Special Edition : 17-inch aluminum wheels, 17-inch touring tires, stainless-steel dual exhaust with dual outlets, body-color grille, front and rear fascia extensions and side rocker panels
Sun and Sound: power sunroof, Monsoon premium nine-speaker system and AM/FM stereo with six-disc in-dash CD changer
Safety and convenience

Grand Prix’s convenience and safety features are perfect for drivers who enjoy the precise handling characteristics of a sporty, family-friendly package. The 2008 Grand Prix remains a driver’s car inside and out. The active and passive safety features on the Grand Prix include standard four-wheel disc brakes, traction control and daytime running lamps.

The Grand Prix GXP takes convenience to another level with a standard head-up display (HUD), which helps the driver focus on the road by displaying dashboard information in the windshield. HUD also allows the driver to pilot with the instrument lights off for better night vision.

Dual-stage frontal air bags provide supplemental security for front-seat passengers. The Grand Prix’s air bag system’s control unit determines whether the severity of a crash warrants air bag deployment and if just the primary stage or the primary and secondary stages are necessary. This smart system helps reduce the risk of air bag-induced injuries. Head curtain air bags are also available for additional protection. They unfold from the roof rail between the A-pillar and side window header. The side air bags deploy in an angle toward the window to help provide protection for front and rear outboard passengers.

Grand Prix is equipped with child security locks and LATCH (Lower Anchors and Tethers for CHildren) system anchors for child safety seats. Two lower anchors and a top tether anchor secure the child seat to the vehicle seat structure for proper installation of compatible child safety seats.

OnStar is standard on Grand Prix, and includes enhanced digital hands-free voice recognition capabilities including more intuitive continuous digit dialing and improved voice recognition accuracy. Using the GPS satellite network and wireless technology, OnStar features core safety and security services and OnStar Hands-Free Calling, which allows drivers to make and receive voice-activated phone calls.

The OnStar service standard on the Grand Prix includes the General Motors Advanced Automatic Crash Notification (AACN) system, making crash data available to participating 911 centers to help them dispatch the appropriate life-saving personnel and equipment to crash scenes faster.

GM’s tire pressure monitoring system is standard on all Grand Prix models. The system uses sensors to track tire pressure, helping drivers avoid premature tire failure and potentially dangerous, costly breakdowns.

Performance engines

Achieving 0-to-60 mph times in 5.6 seconds is no easy accomplishment, but the Grand Prix GXP’s engine, which kicks out 303 horsepower (226 kW) and 323 lb.-ft. of torque (438 Nm), does it without breaking a sweat. The 5.3L V-8 uses GM’s Active Fuel Management (AFM) technology developed exclusively for front-drive applications and helps reduce fuel consumption by up to 12 percent in certain light-load driving conditions.

AFM technology enables fuel economy gains by reducing the number of cylinders engaged in the combustion process. A sophisticated engine controller determines when to deactivate cylinders, allowing the engine to maintain vehicle speed in lighter-load conditions such as highway cruising.

Key features of the 5.3L V-8 include an aluminum engine block with cross-bolted main bearing caps, lightweight composite intake manifold, electronic throttle control and GM’s Oil Life System to minimize required oil changes. GM’s Oil Life System informs the driver when an oil change is required based on driving conditions, not on a predetermined time or mileage basis. GM’s Oil Life System monitors engine speed and temperature, and the computer continuously examines engine conditions to determine when it's time to change the motor oil.

A high-performance Hydra-Matic 4T65 electronically controlled four-speed automatic transmission was strengthened to handle the prodigious torque of the 5.3L V-8. TAPshift (Touch Activated Power) is standard with the GXP and combines the fun and control of a manual transmission with the convenience of an automatic transmission.

GXP details

A Grand Prix on the automotive equivalent of steroids, the GXP model has a unique suspension and a more aggressive look resulting from a re-tuned suspension that lowers the GXP approximately 9 mm. GXP-specific body enhancements complement the car’s forceful stance, with front and rear fascias along with rocker extensions accentuating the low profile. Bilstein gas-charged struts, higher-rate springs and a larger hollow rear stabilizer bar for reduced body roll are also used.

The Grand Prix GXP has an upgraded brake system designed to match the car’s awesome performance. Oversized four-wheel vented disc brakes with Bosch four-channel ABS provide superior stopping power.

Polished, forged aluminum 18-inch wheels (P255/45R18 in front and P225/50R18 in reaer) offer a unique feature for the 2008 Grand Prix GXP. The front wheels are eight inches wide, while the rear wheels are seven inches wide. The tires are W speed-rated. Wider front wheels help the GXP achieve a more neutral cornering stance and optimize the inherent handling characteristics of a front-wheel drive-vehicle.

StabiliTrak, GM’s electronic stability control system, and Magnasteer II are standard. StabiliTrak greatly improves vehicle control with a series of sophisticated sensors that maintain vehicle direction by independently applying brake force at the appropriate corners of the car. StabiliTrak monitors differences between the driver’s desired path and the vehicle’s actual path and then takes preventive measures to maintain the desired path. StabiliTrak greatly reduces the possibility of oversteer or understeer. StabiliTrak is integrated with the vehicle’s ABS and traction control systems.



SPECIFICATIONS


Overview

Models:
Pontiac Grand Prix and GXP

Body style / driveline:
5-passenger, front-engine, front-drive sedan

Construction:
unitized body frame, 1- and 2-sided galvanized steel

EPA vehicle class:
midsize sedan

Manufacturing location:
Oshawa, Ontario, Canada

Key competitors:
Nissan Maxima, Nissan Altima, Honda Accord, Dodge Charger


Engines

3.8L V-6 (L26)
5300 5.3L V-8 (LS4)

Application:
std on Grand Prix
std on GXP

Type:
3.8L V-6
5.3L V-8

Displacement (cu in / cc):
231 / 3791
325 / 5328

Bore & stroke (in / mm):
3.8 x 3.4 / 96.52 x 86.36
3.78 x 3.62 / 96 x 92

Block material:
cast iron
cast aluminum

Cylinder head material:
cast iron
cast aluminum

Valvetrain:
overhead valve, 2 valves per cylinder
OHV, 2 valves per cylinder

Ignition system:
electronic, direct ignition system (DIS) and electronic spark control (ESC) and extended-life platinum-tipped spark plugs
coil-near-plug, iridium electrode tip / iridium core spark plugs, low-resistance spark plug wires

Fuel delivery:
sequential-port fuel injection
Active Fuel Management, sequential-port fuel injection

Compression ratio:
9.4:1
10:1

Horsepower (hp / kW @ rpm):
200 / 149 @ 5200
303 / 226 @ 5600

Torque (lb-ft / Nm @ rpm):
230 / 311 @ 4000
323 / 438 @ 44 00

Recommended fuel:
regular unleaded (Grand Prix)
premium recommended (GXP)

Maximum engine speed (rpm):
6000
6100

Emissions controls:
evaporative emissions system, single close-coupled catalytic converter, positive crankcase ventilation, electronic throttle control, exhaust gas recirculation, SAI-supplemental air injection-SULEV, fast response oxygen sensor-SUVLEV
underfloor catalytic converter, Quick Sync 24X ignition, returnless fuel rail, fast-response O² sensor

EPA Estimated fuel economy (city/hwy)
18/28
16/25


Transmission

Type:
Hydra-Matic 4T65 4-spd electronic automatic FWD transverse (heavy-duty version with 5.3L)

Gear ratios (:1):

First:
2.92

Second:
1.56

Third:
1.00

Fourth:
0.70

Reverse:
2.38

Final drive ratio:
3.8L: 3.05:1
5.3L: 2.93:1


Chassis/Suspension

Front:
MacPherson struts with coil springs, lower A-arm, 20-mm solid anti-roll bar

Rear:
independent, tri-link coil over strut, 17.2-mm anti-roll bar on Grand Prix/GXP

Steering type:
low-friction rack and pinion, power-assisted on Grand Prix and Magnasteer II on GXP

Steering ratio:
13.2:1

Steering wheel turns, lock-to-lock:
2.4

Turning circle, curb-to-curb (ft / m):
37.4 / 11.3 Grand Prix, 38.0 / 11.6 GXP


Brakes

Type:
4-wheel disc, ABS std on GXP, opt on Grand Prix;
front: vented discs, power assisted
rear: solid discs, power assisted on base
front and rear vented discs w/cross-drilled rotors on GXP

Rotor diameter (in / mm):
front: 11.7 / 297; rear: 10.5 / 270 on base
front: 12.7 / 323; rear: 12 / 305 on GXP


Wheels/Tires

Grand Prix
Available on Grand Prix
GXP
Wheel size and type:
16-inch aluminum (QD1), std tire pressure monitoring system
16-inch 5-spoke aluminum (QP1), 16-inch black-painted steel (QB5), 17-inch aluminum (P04), std with B2E Special Edition Package
18 x 8-inch front (QR1), 18 x 7-inch rear forged aluminum, std tire pressure monitoring system

Tires:
Goodyear Eagle P225/60R16
Michelin Energy P225/55HR17
Bridgestone Potenza
P255/45R18 front P225/50R18 rear


Dimensions

Exterior

Grand Prix
GXP

Wheelbase (in / mm):
110.5 / 2807
110.5 / 2807

Overall length (in / mm):
198.3 / 5038
198.3 / 5038

Overall width (in / mm):
71.6 / 1819
71.6 / 1819

Overall height (in / mm):
55.9 / 1420
55.9 / 1420

Track (in / mm):

front: 61.6 / 1565
front: 61.6 / 1565

rear: 61.3 / 1577
rear: 61.7 / 1557

Curb weight (lb / kg):
3477 / 1577
3600 / 1633

Weight distribution (% front / rear):
62 / 38
62 / 38


Interior

Seating capacity (front / rear):
2 / 3

Headroom (in / mm):
front: 38.8 / 986; rear: 36.2 / 919

Legroom (in / mm):
front: 42.2 / 1072; rear: 36.2 / 1072

Shoulder room (in / mm):
front: 58 / 1473; rear: 54.8 / 1392

Hip room (in / mm):
front: 54.5 / 1384; rear: 54.3 / 1379


Capacities

EPA interior volume (cu ft / L):
114 / 3228

Cargo volume (cu ft / L):
16 / 453; 57 / 1614 with all seats folded down

Trailer towing maximum (lb / kg):
1000 / 454

Fuel tank (gal / L):
17 / 64.3

Engine oil (qt / L):
3.8L: 4.3 / 4.1 ; 5.3L: 6.0/5.7

Cooling system (qt / L):
3.8L: 11.2 / 10.6; 5.3L: 13.0 / 12.3


Note: Information shown is current at time of publication.


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{b]2008 CHEVROLET IMPALA & IMPALA SS

New for 2008
StabiliTrak electronic stability control system standard on 2LT, LTZ and SS
E85 FlexFuel capability on the 3.9L V-6 engine
XM Satellite Radio standard on all models
18-inch chrome aluminum wheels on SS
18-inch machined aluminum flangeless wheels on LTZ
17-inch alloy wheels 2LT
Performance suspension standard on LTZ
1LT Luxury Edition includes leather trim, OnStar Turn-By-Turn Navigation, steering wheel radio controls, flip-and-fold rear seat, ABS with traction control and rear spoiler
Three exterior colors: Gold Mist Metallic, Mocha Bronze Metallic and Slate Metallic

2008 CHEVROLET IMPALA: STABILITRAK STABILITY CONTROL AND ADDITIONAL E85 FLEXFUEL POWERTRAIN HIGHLIGHT'08 MODEL YEAR
Chevy’s popular Impala was one of America's top 10 vehicles in sales during the 2006 model year and continued to attract more customers through'07 – including a nearly 44-percent jump in February'07 alone. Indeed, the Impala’s combination of chiseled style, generous room, sporty driving characteristics and value answers the needs of a broad range of drivers.

The 2008 Impala reinforces the brand’s value story with new features and revisions that add to its safety and efficiency, including the addition of standard StabiliTrak electronic stability control on 2LT, LTZ and SS models; and the addition of E85 FlexFuel capability to the 3.9L V-6 engine – an engine that also is equipped with the fuel-saving Active Fuel Management feature.

This marks the second engine in the Impala lineup to offer E85 capability; the 3.5L V-6 also is offered in a FlexFuel configuration. In fact, fuel-saving and FlexFuel powertrains are found in all Impala models:

The 3.5L V-6 of LS and LT models comes standard with E85 FlexFuel capability in some markets and is available with it in some others
The 3.9L V-6 that is standard on LTZ (and available on LT) is equipped with standard E85 FlexFuel capability and Active Fuel Management
The 5.3L V-8 of the Impala SS comes with standard Active Fuel Management.
Active Fuel Management is a fuel-saving technology that shuts off half the engine’s cylinders when full power is not needed. It can improve fuel economy by up to 12 percent in certain driving situations.

“Alternative fuels and fuel economy are important considerations for many customers,” said Ed Peper, Chevrolet general manager. “The Impala lineup offers a great range of models that answer the needs of those who are looking for efficient, flexible engines – and with the 3.9L engine, they can now choose a FlexFuel vehicle that also provides the gas-saving benefits of Active Fuel Management.”

New and revised features for'08

Impala’s standard and available safety features include ABS, traction control and side-curtain roof rail air bags. StabiliTrak electronic stability control is new for'08 and is standard on 2LT, LTZ and SS models.

Additional new features and revisions for'08 Impala include:

XM Satellite Radio is standard on all models
18-inch chrome aluminum wheels on Impala SS
18-inch machined aluminum flangeless wheels on LTZ
17-inch alloy wheels on 2LT models
Performance-oriented FE3 suspension is standard on LTZ
Three exterior colors: Gold Mist Metallic, Mocha Bronze Metallic and Slate Metallic
There is also a new 1LT Luxury Edition package, which features a leather-trimmed interior – including a leather-wrapped steering wheel with radio controls – flip-and-fold rear seat, four-wheel ABS with electronic traction control, rear spoiler, OnStar with Turn-By-Turn Navigation and one-year Directions & Connections service. This package offers popular features and the industry’s easiest-to-use navigation system at a discounted price.

Impala design

Chevy Impala conveys sophistication and exudes big-car roominess. On the exterior, large headlamps have a premium, jeweled appearance with three independent lighting units. These details complement other high-quality attributes, such as tight tolerances of 3.5 mm or less between body components and substantial “grab”-style door handles, to provide an overall feeling of solidity. Also, new, flat-blade windshield wipers are used to provide consistent pressure on the glass, which helps eliminate streaking and wind noise.

The Impala LS, LT and LTZ models have varied exterior trim cues that identify each model, while the Impala SS receives a distinct front-end appearance. It includes a dual-split grille with a SS-signature black-diamond crosshatch pattern. At the rear, a spoiler is standard on LTZ and SS models and is available on LT. The Impala SS also receives Corvette-inspired bright exhaust tips.

Inside, Impala is packed with thoughtful features, including clever flip-and-fold rear seats (standard on LTZ and SS, available on LT). The forward-flip rear seat cushions reveal a storage tub under the seat that can contain spillage while transporting a variety of items. The tub also serves as a covered storage area beneath the seat with cushions down and offer convenient grocery bag hooks when the cushions are flipped forward. A generous pass-through from the trunk can be created by flipping the seat bottoms forward and the seat backs flat – an exclusive feature in the midsize segment.

All of Impala’s available seating features cleaner, simpler and more tailored appearances. Uplevel Nuance leather- appointed seating features premium deck seams around their perimeter and French seams on the center cushions. The seats also have firmer cushions and increased lumbar support that provide more comfort, especially during long drives. The driver’s seat also includes adjustable lumbar.

The Impala’s instrument panel wraps around into the door panels and has a double-hump design that is reminiscent of early Corvettes. Impala LS, LT and LTZ models have a wood-trimmed appearance, while a sportier, brushed sterling-appearance trim is available. The Impala SS comes standard with a “technical”-pattern trim panel, with the wood-trimmed appearance as an option.

Completing the Impala’s comprehensive interior is a host of useful comfort and convenience features, including:

Available dual-zone climate control system with up to 12 degrees F temperature setting difference between the two front zones
Available factory-installed remote vehicle start system with a 200-foot (61-meter) range and automatic climate pre-conditioning to warm or cool the vehicle prior to entry (Impala LS features available dealer-installed remote start)
Informative gauge clusters and an expanded driver information center – with more than 50 alerts, depending on the vehicle’s equipment
Standard easy-access, steering wheel-mounted cruise control buttons
Steering wheel radio controls on uplevel models
Eight-way, heated power driver seat standard on LTZ and SS leather-appointed seats; six-way power driver seat standard on LS, LT with cloth seats
New 7.0 Generation OnStar system offers Turn-by-Turn navigation.
Three audio systems feature simple-to-operate radios that include standard XM Satellite Radio and are compatible with the enhanced OnStar system. The base MP3/CD radio includes a six-speaker system, a two-line, 32-character reconfigurable display and the capability to select between AM, FM and XM stations without having to reset the frequency. An uplevel ICDX radio adds an in-dash six-CD changer. Impala also offers a premium Bose audio system. All radios include a standard auxiliary input jack for external devices such as an iPod or remote cassette player. Located in the lower right-hand corner of each radio, the input allows for plug-and-play through Impala’s sound system.

Chassis and suspension

Quiet, smoothness and refinement are the ride and handling traits conveyed through the Impala’s chassis and suspension systems. A robust front-end structure provides a firmer foundation to help reduce noise, vibration and harshness (NVH), while also enhancing steering and handling performance.

Impala’s fully boxed upper frame rail assemblies have a wider, deeper and structurally stronger upper front tie bar. Stronger ties between the upper and lower rails stiffen the front structure for improved ride and handling and a large, lower front-of-dash panel has been strengthened. It is constructed of Quiet Steel laminated steel, which consists of sound deadening material bonded between sheets of steel and reduces resonant sound.

An extruded aluminum engine cradle is used on both vehicles, too, and contributes to a smoother, vibration-free ride. The cradle’s lateral stiffness (at the steering joint) is increased with a new, one-piece machined rear cross member and new aluminum rear body mounts to help improve handling control. Models equipped with a V-6 engine have a two-point engine-mounting system, while V-8 models have a three-point mounting system.

A power rack-and-pinion steering system is standard on all models, with a responsive 13.3:1 steering ratio on LT, LTZ and SS models. All models feature a quiet, efficient power steering system that optimizes internal flow of the hydraulic steering fluid within the pump and reservoirs.

The front suspension features a MacPherson strut coil-over-spring independent setup with gas-charged struts and a stabilizer bar. Tall jounce bumpers in the front suspension help enhance stability and control. The rear suspension uses a trailing arm, tri-link setup with gas-charged struts and coil springs. A rear stabilizer bar is standard on all models. Based on the basic front and rear suspension designs, the Impala offers two levels of suspension tuning – FE1 and FE3 – each matched to the power and expected performance level of its respective model

FE1 (LS and LT): The FE1 suspension provides great control without compromising ride quality. It uses stiff, constant-rate front springs and variable-rate rear springs to provide higher roll rates and, at the front, a stiffer torque strut design reduces NVH and helps provide a smoother, quieter ride. The packages include 16-inch wheels and P225/60R16 ALS (all-season) Goodyear Integrity radials; on LT models equipped with the 3.9L V-6, it includes 17-inch wheels and P225/55R17 AL2 (touring) Goodyear Eagle LS2 radials.

FE3 ( LTZ and SS): Impala LTZ and SS models receive a FE3 suspension, which includes 18-inch W-rated P235/50R18 AL3 (performance) tires and five-spoke alloy wheels, to provide a sporty ride that complements the 5.3L small-block V-8’s performance. A 34-mm hollow front stabilizer bar and 18-mm solid rear stabilizer bar combine to provide more roll control than the FE1 or FE2 suspensions. Also, increased stiffness helps reduce body lean and contributes to greater high-speed stability.

Powertrain details

Impala’s V-6 engines are as fuel-efficient as they are sophisticated. A 3.5L V-6 is standard in the Impala LS and LT, delivering 211 horsepower (157 kW)* and 214 lb.-ft. (290 Nm)* of torque – more standard power as a base engine than some key competitors’ top (or only) offering.

Vehicles with federal emissions systems in the United States are equipped with the 3.5L engine, which is compatible with E85 ethanol fuel, allowing the vehicle to run on any combination of gasoline and/or E85. Vehicles sold in YF5 ( California ) or NE1 (Northeast) emissions are equipped with PZEV versions of the 3.5L engine. This engine is not E85-compatible. Customers in these areas have the option of ordering E85-compatible engines .

Standard in LTZ and available in LT models is the 3.9L V-6 that features E85 FlexFuel capability and Active Fuel Management. The 3.9L uses variable valve timing and a variable-length intake manifold to help produce 233 horsepower (174 kW)* and 240 lb.-ft. (325 Nm) of torque.* This engine offers more power and usable torque within its operating range, with 90 percent of peak torque available from 1800 to 5800 rpm.

The 5.3L all-aluminum small-block V-8 powers the performance-oriented Impala SS. It features Active Fuel Management, which can provide up to 8 percent better fuel economy. Developed exclusively for front-drive applications, the SS’s 5.3L engine produces 303 horsepower (226 kW)* and 323 lb.-ft. (438 Nm)* of torque.

All of Impala’s engines are matched with the Hydra-Matic 4T65 electronically controlled four-speed automatic transmission, which is renowned for its smoothness and durability. A strengthened version is equipped with the 5.3L engine to handle the V-8’s torque.

Safety and crash avoidance

Impala offers standard side-curtain air bags, which provide optimum head protection for outboard passengers. The side curtain air bags are mounted in the side roof rails and deploy down to the lower edge of the windows from the A-pillar to the C-pillar. Impala’s other safety features include:

StabiliTrak electronic stability control system is new for 2008; it is standard on 2LT, LTZ and SS models
Four-wheel-disc brake system featuring smooth, quiet operation, longer pad life, and more resistance to brake pulsation
ABS system is standard on LTZ and SS, and available on LS and LT, and helps provide improved steering control while braking. It also includes Electronic Brake Force Distribution, which helps provide optimum braking regardless of load, traction or braking speed
Available engine- and brake-managed full-function traction control system works with the ABS system to help ensure stable acceleration on a variety of road conditions
Pretensioners are standard on the front safety belts, helping to minimize forward movement during a frontal collision and new, more effective load-limiting retractors. The retractors have more “take-up” force, cinching the belt more tightly. Three-point safety belts are equipped in all standard seating positions
LATCH (Lower Anchors and Tethers for CHildren) child seat attachment system is included in all second-row seating positions
Tire pressure monitoring system is standard on all models
Standard remote keyless entry (RKE) system provides a second function for the red panic button. Drivers can use the button to locate their cars, without sounding the panic alarm.
The Impala includes features designed to enhance the vehicle structure, including lighter, more rigid front and rear bumper systems. Also, the Impala features a strengthened “safety cage” passenger compartment with the front and rear doors designed for improved energy dissipation in the event of a crash.

The OnStar system is standard on Impala. Its digital hardware includes upgraded hands-free voice recognition capabilities, including more intuitive continuous digit dialing and improved voice recognition accuracy. OnStar is the leading provider of in-vehicle safety, security and information services in the United States and Canada . Using the GPS satellite network and wireless technology, OnStar features core safety services and OnStar Personal Calling that allows drivers to make and receive hands-free, voice-activated phone calls using a powerful 3-watt digital/analog system and external antenna for greater reception.

The OnStar service available on the 2008 Impala includes the General Motors Advanced Automatic Crash Notification (AACN) system, making crash data available to 911 centers to potentially dispatch the appropriate life-saving personnel and equipment to crash scenes faster.

The 7.0 Generation OnStar system offers Turn-by-Turn navigation with the optional Directions and Connections service. Turn-by-Turn navigation directs the driver through the route by using the digital readout lines in the radio head. Directions are downloaded by the OnStar advisor to the vehicle and can be played back or paused through the drive up to the destination. Besides being an easy to use system (all directions are downloaded to the car by an advisor) Turn-by-Turn offers an affordable system that is always up to date (no need to purchase map updates).


SPECIFICATIONS


Models:
Chevrolet Impala LS, LT, LTZ and SS

Body style / driveline:
front-engine, front-drive, 5- / 6-passenger sedan

Construction:
2-sided galvanized steel (except roof); Quiet Steel (F.O.D.)

EPA vehicle class:
large car

Manufacturing location:
Oshawa, Ontario, Canada

Key competitors:
Ford Taurus, Honda Accord, Toyota Camry, Nissan Altima, Chrysler 300C

Engines
3500 3.5L V-6 w/VVT (LZE, LZ4)
3.9L V-6 (LZG)
5.3L V-8 (LS4)

LZE (E85): std. in FE9 states; optional in YF5 and NE1 States
LZ4:std. in Canada and NE1 and YF5 states

Application:
LS, LT
LT, LTZ
SS

Type:
3.5L V-6
3.9L V-6
5.3L V-8

Displacement (cu in / cc):
214 / 3510
237 / 3880
325 / 5327

Bore & stroke (in / mm):
3.90 x 2.99 / 99 x 76
3.90 x 3.31 / 99 x 84
3.78 x 3.62 / 96 x 92

Block material:
cast iron
cast iron
cast aluminum

Cylinder head material:
cast aluminum
cast aluminum
cast aluminum

Valvetrain:
overhead valve, 2 valves per cylinder, continuously variable valve timing
overhead valve, 2 valves per cylinder, continuously variable valve timing
overhead valve, 2 valves per cylinder

Ignition system:
Quick Sync 58X; direct

iridium electrode tip / iridium core spark plugs, low resistance spark plug wires
Quick Sync 58X; direct

iridium electrode tip / iridium core spark plugs, low resistance spark plug wires
coil-near-plug, iridium electrode tip / iridium core spark plugs, low resistance spark plug wires

Fuel:
sequential fuel injection
Active Fuel Management; sequential fuel injection
Active Fuel Management; sequential fuel injection

Compression ratio:
9.8:1
9.8:1
10:1

Horsepower (hp/ kW @ rpm):
211 / 157 @ 5800*
233 / 174 @ 5600
303 / 226 @ 5600

Torque (lb-ft / Nm @ rpm):
214 / 290 @ 4000*
240 / 325 @ 4000
323 / 438 @ 40 00

Fuel:
(LZ4) regular unleaded;

(LZE) regular unleaded, E85-capable
regular unleaded; E85 capable
premium recommended but not required

Maximum engine speed (rpm):
6400
6400
6100

Emissions controls:
close-coupled catalytic converter, Quick Sync 58X ignition, returnless fuel rail, fast-response O² sensor
close-coupled catalytic converter, Quick Sync 58X ignition, returnless fuel rail, fast-response O² sensor
underfloor catalytic converter, Quick Sync 24X ignition, returnless fuel rail, fast-response O² sensor

Estimated fuel economy:
TBD
TBD
TBD

Transmission


Type:
Hydra- Ma tic 4T65, 4-speed automatic, front-wheel drive

Gear ratios (:1):

First:
2.92

Second:
1.56

Third:
1.00

Fourth:
0.70

Reverse:
2.38

Final drive ratio:
3.5L – 2.86:1; 3.9L – 3.29:1; 5.3L – 3.29:1

Overall drive ratio:
3.5L – 2.86:1; 3.9L – 3.29:1; 5.3L – 2.93:1


Chassis/Suspension


Suspension type:
std. with LS, LT: FE1; std with LTZ, SS: FE3

Front:
independent MacPherson strut coil-over-spring, twin-tube dampers with gas-charged valving; coil springs; hollow 30-mm stabilizer bar; FE3 has hollow 34-mm stabilizer bar

Rear:
independent tri-link coil over strut, twin-tube dampers, variable-rate coil springs, 16-mm solid stabilizer bar (FE1); LTZ/SS FE3 has dual rate coil springs, hollow 19.4-mm stabilizer bar

Steering type:
power rack-and-pinion (all models)

Steering ratio:
13.3:1 (all models)

Steering wheel turns, lock-to-lock:
3.5L and 3.9L: 2.4; 5.3L: 2.3

Turning circle, curb-to-curb (ft / m):
38 / 11.6: models with 16-inch or 17-inch wheels
40 / 12.2: models with 18-inch wheels


Brakes

Type:
4-wheel disc with power assist, vented front, solid rear

Rotor diameter x thickness (mm):
front: 303 x 30;
rear: 278 x 11

ABS
opt. LS, std: LT, LTZ, SS


Wheels/Tires

w/ 3.5L engine
w/ 3.9L engine
w/ 5.3L engine

Wheel size and type:
std: 16 x 6.5- inch, steel wheels, available cast aluminum w/ five-spoke composite wheel cover; opt: same size painted aluminum wheels
2LT:17 x 6.5-inch high-vent steel w/ chromed wheel covers

LTZ: five-spoke 18x 7-inch machined aluminum wheel
std: 18 x 7-inch chrome aluminum

Tires:
P225/60R16
P225/50R17 (2LT)
P235/55R18 (LTZ)
P235/50R18


Dimensions

Exterior

Wheelbase (in / mm):
110.5 / 2807

Overall length (in / mm):
200.4 / 5091

Overall width (in / mm):
72.9 / 1851

Overall height (in / mm):
58.7 / 1487

Track (in / mm):
(all) front: 62.4 / 1585.5; rear : 61.5 / 1562

Curb weight (lb / kg):
LS: 3555/ 1613
LT w/3.5L: 3555/ 1613
LT w/3.9L: 3649 / 1655
LTZ: 3649 / 1655
SS: 3711 / 1683

Weight distribution (% front / rear):
LS: 62 / 38
LT: 61 / 39
LTZ: 61 / 39
SS: 62 / 38

Drag coefficient:
0.33


Interior

front
rear

Seating capacity:
LS, LT, LTZ: 2/3; SS: 2
All models: 3

Headroom (in / mm):
39.4 / 1001
37.8 / 961

Legroom (in / mm):
42.3 / 1076
37.6 / 954

Shoulder room (in / mm):
58.7 / 1490
58.6 / 1488

Hip room (in / mm):
56.4 / 1432
57.2 / 1452

Rear pass-through (in / mm):
15.4 / 390 x 37.1 / 943


Capacities

EPA passenger volume (cu ft / L):
104.5 / 2959

EPA interior volume (cu ft / L):
123.1 / 3486

Cargo volume (cu ft / L):
18.6 / 526.7

Trailer towing maximum (lb / kg):
1000 / 454

Fuel tank (gal / L):
17.5 / 66.2

Engine oil (qt / L):
3.5L: 4.5 / 4.3; 3.9L: 4.5 / 4.3; 5.3L: 6.0/ 5.7

Cooling system (qt / L):
3.5L: 11.7 / 11.1; 3.9L: 12.2 / 11.5; 5.3L: TBD








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Re: Impala SS vs. Grand Prix GXP
Monday, November 26, 2007 8:37 AM
F it go w/ the GTO unless you need 4 doors.



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Re: Impala SS vs. Grand Prix GXP
Monday, November 26, 2007 8:52 AM
UnXpectedError wrote:
Gutty96 wrote:
UnXpectedError wrote:your looking for trouble running regular on a LSX engine.. trust me my dad once put 87 into my trans am and the thing ran like poop ... i thought it was gonna blow...ended up pumping the gas out of the tank and putting in some 93

if i had to pick one it would be the GXP all the way but i wouldn't really recommend ether one though... they are heavy @$$ cars that get horrible gas mileage most owners average 17-18 mpg with the LS4


why don't you have her check out the mazda 3 or scion tC both great cars


17-18 miles to us gallon isn't bad, that is almost 25mpg to me.

As far as the Mazda 3, or the Scion, I am pretty sure those are both small economy cars. While they may be great cars for someone who wants something like that, we are looking for a full size luxury sport sedan.


17-18mpg sucks when you have to use premium, the Scion tC and Mazda 3 are bigger inside then you would imagine and both have a small upscale touch to them.
a gxp or impala isn't a full size luxury sports sedan even if GM would like you to believe that.... if you want a luxary car you would be better too look into a 03-04 Cadillac CTS , Lexus is300, 01-03 BMW 330i, Audi A4/A6, mazdaspeed 6 ..heck even check out a GTO if you can live with 2 doors

if it was me id go with the BMW or Mazdaspeed 6 (AWD FTW)


First, there is no way he will like a 3 if he is looking for something larger. Even the Speed3/Hatchback is way to small for me, I'm 6'4" 200lbs, and I was sitting with my knees in the dash, and when I moved the seat back there was no room in the back for anything other than a small child.

I would definitley say look at the Speed6, I fit into it nicely, and they have over $3000 in rebates right now, putting you into the 24-26K range brand new. Stay away from 06's, issues with turbo and clutch, that if it hasn't been taken care of yet, and is out of warranty could cost you. The 07's have those issues resolved.

However, it still requires 93 (well you can put a lower rating in there, but it drops power like crazy, so what is the point?) and they are all manual, so if you don't feel like driving stick...

My vote would be for the Impala, I think the interior in the GXP is fugly.



Re: Impala SS vs. Grand Prix GXP
Monday, November 26, 2007 8:56 AM
I would also say BMW FTL, if you go by price the Speed6 beats it in every aspect, save for the "I drive a BMW" douche factor.

I mean if you like BMW's, by all means then. But on paper comparing other cars to it, it doesn't make sense unless you start talking M series and throw reliability out the door with German Luxo's anyways.



Re: Impala SS vs. Grand Prix GXP
Monday, November 26, 2007 2:42 PM
I am going to buy an 08 CTS in the future for myself, so she won't want the same car as me. I can't go older then the 08's unless I move though, because I can't get near my house with RWD, so the GTO would be out too. Oh, and the GTO is REALLY out since there are none in Canada.

Like I said before, the 3 and tC may be nice, and larger then average economy cars, but we don't want and economy car. Been there done that. Gas mileage is not really a big issue either, probably not even the top 10 things I consider when looking at a car. The GF maybe top 10, but not top 5. Hell, she drives 2 kms total for work each day, even at 15mpg a take of gas in my Sierra would last her 3 weeks, so 20mpg in a car would still be more then enough.

BMW or a Mercedes would be nice, but I live in a fairly rural area, so it would be a nightmare to maintain and repair one.






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Re: Impala SS vs. Grand Prix GXP
Monday, November 26, 2007 3:47 PM
If this was my choice it would come down to Dollos.

I like the Impala more out of the two ... but the GXP has the 'Trinket Factor'.





Re: Impala SS vs. Grand Prix GXP
Monday, January 21, 2008 8:14 AM
After looking at some other cars, which she didn't like (Jetta, Golf, Altima, Accord) I am trying to get her to look at these again.

Funny thing I have noticed, which will play a HUGE roll, is that an 06 Impala SS is cheaper on average then an 05 GP GXP.

Also, I think I will go look at some Mazda 6's today while she is at work, and see how they compare.





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Re: Impala SS vs. Grand Prix GXP
Monday, January 21, 2008 10:16 AM
Gutty96 wrote:After looking at some other cars, which she didn't like (Jetta, Golf, Altima, Accord) I am trying to get her to look at these again.

Funny thing I have noticed, which will play a HUGE roll, is that an 06 Impala SS is cheaper on average then an 05 GP GXP.

Also, I think I will go look at some Mazda 6's today while she is at work, and see how they compare.



Both of these are with the SB LS4's, right?

What prices are you seeing on them?

Several dealerships in the GTA had brand New 0Km SS's for about 27K before the new year ... of course with all of the GM perks of 0% financing, no money down, yada yada yada ...

Not bad.





Re: Impala SS vs. Grand Prix GXP
Monday, January 21, 2008 10:20 AM
I was looking at an 06 SS for $19,000, but the cheapest I have seen an 05 GXP is $24,000. Kms were close too.

Don't know where they were, I was just doing a trader.ca search.

I am going to get a dealer friend of mine that works a large GM dealer in town to see what he can find at auction, and bring in. Problem with that is, there policy for auction sales is, if he buys it, I buy it. No test drive, no nothing.





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Re: Impala SS vs. Grand Prix GXP
Monday, January 21, 2008 10:37 AM
of course the gp gxp is going to be higher. it has a lot more options. and if memory serves me right thats how gm is setup on price and performance. chevy then pontiac is a little more upscale then buick then cadilac. saturn falls in their some where.



Re: Impala SS vs. Grand Prix GXP
Monday, January 21, 2008 12:45 PM
Hey, I don't know if how fast makes a big difference. But if you want something nicer and upscale, go sit in a Hyundai Azera. You will be really suprised that its a Hyundai. I have a friend that has a Grand Prix GXP and both of us we impressed by it.

Just another car you can look at. Take a look at it and see if you like it.
Re: Impala SS vs. Grand Prix GXP
Tuesday, January 22, 2008 4:02 PM



that is my gxp,, i love the car bought it used low mileage i only had minor warranty work done like the monsoon amp replaced, a wire connector replaced and a wheel bearing replaced, and i did rear brakes, the company who does the brakes is pbr awesome brakes!!! well built car, looks great, ride is a bit stiff, but yet very nimble for a car it size

i use nothing but 93 octane due to its compression raito, and i have the magnaflow cat back system and the k&n cold air intake, and with that i get 15.8 miles to a gallon, check out clubgp.com check out the gxp section allot of info a guy has his turbo makin 500 wheel hp, some are lowered check it out



can i haz bondo
Re: Impala SS vs. Grand Prix GXP
Wednesday, January 23, 2008 5:46 AM
Sweet car. I love the look of the GXP

The GF just seems to like the SS more though, maybe because she has a Grand Prix now, and wants something different.





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