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EXTERIOR FAQ: PLEASE READ ME FIRST
Saturday, June 12, 2004 10:55 AM
This is compiled FAQ for the exterior forum. The exterior of the j-bodies is usually the first thing that people see, so naturally you would want to make a good impression. You can do this with simple things such as shaving badges and tint, to the extreme of molded wide body kits and such. I have seen many of the same questions over and over, which can all be answered, via the SEARCH button I know, however, that it is easy to find something when one knows where to search. I hope this will help many people when it comes to making their car great looking.

DISCLAIMER: This is by no means all-inclusive. I do not have all the answers, but I do have a decent bit of knowledge in the area. There are those out there who are experts in this field. The only reason I do this, is to take up time at work and so those who have a life and are busy working on their cavaliers donít have to If you happen to see an error and KNOW it to be false or incorrect, please post the correction and tell me why I am wrong. Thatís why the JBO is here: for us to learn.

First and foremost, the biggest question many people ask, ďWill this kit look good with these rims and that wing and etc. etc.etc.???Ē I canít answer that. I am not you, and I do not have your taste as far as appearance goes. Each person has the own unique taste in cars that is why there is such diversity in the JBO. As long as you like it that is all that matters. We do not have to look at your car everyday.

As with modifying any part of a car, there are two routes to take: the right way, and the wrong way. What distinguishes right from wrong? Time and money. The great saying ďYou get what you pay forĒ is what I am talking about. If you try to get cheap body kits, cheap paint, and cheap work, then you will have a cheap looking car and, then you will have to start from square one. ďBut I like the way my car looks, even if it looks cheap to you. Didnít you just say that as long as I like it its okay???Ē Yes I did, but it wonít stay that way for long. It will get worse. Cheap kits break, and cheap paint chips and peals. Your car will go from looking cheap to looking like it needs to be shot and put out if its misery. Again, I canít tell you what to do, many people will have find out the hard way.

Also, I do not know much about 1st and 2nd generation jbodies. Please input any info you can. Sunfire owners, I know what I post is true for cavaliers, but I am uncertain about certain things for sunfires. Please post any corrections or additional info.

For most things that you buy you can install yourself, especially lights and spoilers. Body kits, and hoods, fenders, can be installed by yourself, but remember that fitment might be an issue. It is best to research the company you buy from and how their fitment goes. You may have to let body shops install certain items for you. Again, time and money determine how a car will look.

Quick List of Goodies:
1) Hoods on 3rd Gen J-bodies are the same for that car from 95-02, 03+ is different.
2) Fenders are all the same on 3rd Gen Jbodies
3) Three different bumpers for 3rd Gen: 95-99, 00-02, 03+
4) Trunk lids for cavaliers are same throughout 95+
5) Trunk lid for sunfires changed in 03
6) Side skirts are interchangeable between sunfires and cavaliers.
7) Some side skirts are interchangeable between 4door and 2door jbodies (ex. Importfighter, z24, buddyclub 2, anything that does not flare up at all)
8) If you have 00-02 base model cav, and you want the z24/LS lips, the easiest part would be the buy the whole front bumper. There are many holes cut into the bottom side of the bumper for the clips to run through. You can do it yourself, but it takes time. You decide.
9) Yes there are convertible jbodies. It would be very hard though to convert you non-convertible into one. I suggest against it, just go out and buy one.
10) Yes a targa-top (sp?) Can be done, but will lots of fabrication. If you know what you are doing, then I do not have to explain what needs to be done. If I need to explain, you have no business even thinking about it.

Now onto the good stuff:


Badges and Side Moldings:
Here is a post. Read this and all you questions shall be answered. The same goes for badges. Just use the same technique as you did the molding. This question is asked frequently. Thank Streaker for such a nice indepth post.

How to Shave Badges & Moldings

Tint:
Tinting a car is another small thing. Some places do charge a bit of money for it, but you donít have to do any work. I know where I live it cost about $150 to tint the whole car. Each place is different. Shop around and research the quality of work of different shops. The tint lets in a percentage of light. If you tint your windows to 40%, then you are only letting in 40% of light into your car. You can install it yourself, but itís not the easiest thing, and if done incorrectly you will get hairs, dirt, and other things trapped between the tint and the windows. I do not know legal tint in your state. Look it up at your local courthouse, or call up and ask at a tint shop. They will know. ďCan I still tint darker than the legal limit?Ē Sure. I have 5% tint on mine, and the legal limit is 35%. DO THIS AT YOUR OWN RISK. I CANNOT BE HELD RESPONSIBLE IF A COP GIVES YOU A TICKET. I have just been lucky, and I also ride around with my windows down most of the time.

Lights:
This seems to be a much-debated topic about lights on our cars. There are so many questions that are asked daily so I will try to include all that I can.

Headlights-
This is an important part of the car. These help you see at night. If you try to go cheap on these, you will regret it when you canít see past your hood at night. As it is, there are only a few companies who make projector headlights for 3rd generation cavaliers, and none who make them for sunfires (sorry guys). However, there is hopeÖ..well a small bit. Hella had a set of lights at the JBASH last year and has promised the kits will be outÖÖ..but that almost a year ago. If you must have projector lights, I suggest you learn to custom to make your own, or work with the cheap ones. WinksOnline might be in the works for some projectors for sunfires.

Also, Tabasco Racing has eyelids for the headlights. I know he has them for cavaliers, but I am not certain about sunfires. APC does make headlight covers for cavaliers. Remember, covering the headlights cuts down on your visibility at night, so check to see if it is legal where you live before installing these. Check ebay for the complete headlight covers.

TabascoRacing

Corner Lights/Bumper Lights
These lights tell people ahead of you, and beside you if you are switching lanes while driving, if you actually use them . So again, caution when fooling with these, or you might run into a nasty situation if someone cuts you off because they didnít see that you were changing lanes.
There clear corners for cavaliers and sunfires. You can find these anywhere and they are usually cheap. 95-99 cavalier, you best bet is use ebay. 2000-2002, I would suggest making your own clear lenses to save money. There is a how-to in the library, but can buy them as well.

00-02 clear corner how to

There are also the Toyota Cavalier corner lights. =GreenZ= has a set. I think they look nice and subtle. Most people think they look too much like stock lights to bother. Again, itís your car, you decide. You can find these either I the classifieds if youíre lucky or at your GM dealership. You will need the part number for the corner lights which I was not able to find. CAN SOMEONE PLEASE POST THE PART NUMBER FOR THE CORNER LIGHTS FOR CAVALIER 95-99. THANK YOU

Where to buy corner lights:
rksport

Taillights
The part you have been waiting for. 1st and 2nd gens, I do not believe aftermarket taillights are available for your cars. If there are, someone please post where they can be found. 3rd gen Cavalier owners, you have your pick from just about any kind of taillight you can possibly want. Altezzas, C/F, etc. etc. Again, itís your car get what taillights you think look best what you have. One favorite is also the Toyota tails. There are two styles, 95-99 and 00-02. There is a little work involved in installing these.

Here are the GM part numbers for Toyota Tails:
2000+ outer right 22628442
2000+ outer left 22628443
2000+ inner right 22602878
2000+ inner left 22602879
96-99 right outer 22626394
96-99 left outer 22626395
96-99 right inner 55977632
96-99 left inner 55977631

Where to buy aftermarket tails:
WinksOnline
Rksport

Sunfire Owners. From 95-02 You have the retro style taillights. Thatís all you have. The 4door owners can use taillights from a cavalier however. 03+ Sunfire owners now have euro lights and such. I am just the messenger so donít hate me.
You cannot use cavalier taillights for sunfire coupes. You can use them for sunfire sedans.

Again, itís important to realize that your brake lights are very important. They alert people behind when you are braking. Taillight covers and such can make it difficult to see the lights. Use caution before installing such items.
Taillight accessories:

Underbody Lights:
Yes, there are kits for these as well. I would caution against use while driving. Mr. Officer might not like them.

Spoilers/Wings
Okay I am going to go out and let everyone know this. ALUMINUM WINGS HAVE NO FUNCTION OF OUR CARS WHATSOEVER. YOU CAR DOES NOT GO FAST ENOUGH AND IS FRONT WHEEL DRIVE. With that being said, you may choose an aluminum wing for cosmetic purposes. This is up to you, do what you want. Ebay has many wings for sell, and check the classifieds here as well.
Where to get wings
rksport
carcustoms.net
WinksOnline

For those of you who might want something else you can always by the smaller spoilers. A spoiler from a jbody of any year will fit another cavalier of the same generation..except 2003+ cavalier. The reflector on the trunk will get in the way of the 2000 z24 spoiler.

Also, you can make your own spoiler. Many people have done so, or have used spoilers from other cars. Just might take a little imagination to get them to work.
Where to get spoilers:

Hoods:
Jbodies are blessed with many different styles of hoods. Again, I cannot say what will look best on your car. You have a brain, decide for yourself. Some info on hoods: 95-02 Cavaliers use the same hood. The same goes for the sunfires. In 2003 the hoods changed for both. Hoods will cost you a pretty penny, so save up.
Where to get hoods:
WinksOnline
carcustoms.net
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Fenders:
The fenders for the Cavalier and Sunfires are the same for all third gens. Some have bracket for the corner lights, some do not, but they are the same. Many styles are available for both the Cavalier and Sunfire, ranging from z3, the X1, and so forth.
Where to get fenders.
tabascoracing
WinksOnline

Body Kits:
The part you have all been waiting for. This is where a car can be completely transformed into an exotic looking beast. Body kits range from simple lip kits, to complete bumper replacements, to widebody molding kits. Kits can be bought whole or separately, and sometimes mixing and matching is a good idea. However, I suggest you make sure the kit will flow well if you are mixing it up. It would not look right for the front bumper to be the highest part of the car, or for the bumpers to be slick and smooth, but the skirts are crazy and waveyÖyou get my drift. Cheap knock-offs are available on Ebay, but that is all they are: cheap knock offs. The material is weak, and will therefore break easily.
There are two types of bodykits though. Polyurethane and Fiberglass.

Urethane kits are very strong and durable. They are basically plastic kits. Downfall is that they are expensive, and not always easy to find.

Fiberglass is cheaper than urethane, but not as durable. Fiberglass however, is easy to fix if cracked. Fiberglass kits are also easy to mold to the car. Itís all on what you want out of your kit to determine what suits you best.

Everyplace I have listed above sells bodykits as well. There are many other places that bodykits also.
cheapkitsdirect.com
wings west
buddy club2
rksport
razzi

Search around for the best price and quality.

DISCLAIMER: If I am wrong, then moderators please delete this. I was lead to believe by previous post on the JBO, that the Carbon Fiber products for our cars are no more than fiberglass with a single layer of C/F. True carbon fiber would not break or crack.

Other things that can be done:
We have covered now what most people do. However there are further steps that can be taken to make your car, truly a show car, or truly stand out in the crowd.

Cavalier/Sunfire Swaps
Yes you can swap the front end of a cavalier with that of a sunfire. It is not hard either. You will need the following items from for the front end.
Hood
Headlights
Headlights Wireharness
Hood Latch
Fenders
Front Bumper

Everything bolts on. You just have to splice the wires for the headlights depending on what year and make you are using. The back ends, however, are a different story. The rear quarter panels are completely different, and therefore you cannot interchange them. 4door sunfires, however, can use the rear bumper from a cavalier.
If you have more questions I suggest emailing the following people. They have performed the swap themselves.
03 Cav Fire
Cheeter

Suicide Doors:
Yes they can be done, and yes it has been done. Is it easy? No. There is a lot of fabrication involved, and you will probably have to shave you door handles (I will get to that in a sec).

Lambo Doors:
It has been, and is becoming quite popular. There are two kits available, and both seem to be very reliable. These are not cheap things, however, and will run you a pretty penny. Remember, expensive things are good. Your doors are very important, and an expensive kit will mean that doors do not fly off when you drive down the hi-way.
Lambo Door Kits:
Winksonline and aplusperformance.com have the kits. I am sure others have them as well, just search around.

Lambo Door Install
Thank john317 for the wonderful walkthough on that.

Molding Body Kits:
As I mentioned before, it is possible to mold the bodykits to your car. To do this, you need to be skilled in fiberglass and bodywork. I myself know nothing of the sorts. I suggest emailing these people and getting to know how the process works. Be warned, since the bumpers will be molded to car, and the bumpers are supposed to give. If the bumpers do not give that will cause stress in the areas of molding. Eventually the molded areas will crack if not done well enough, or the bumpers or any other molded areas take a large impact.
People who can Mold.
Meckster

Shave Locks/Door Handles
A lot of people do this for show cars. The car does look very sexy and sleek. There is a lot of work involved however.

Here is a good post on it

What Metal To Use

Dont Forget the Door Poppers

Here is some info in case you would want a shop to do it

This is a very good How-To. Please remember to thank KavKy for the very detailed process:
KavKy's How To

I am certain that I covered the major areas. I hope this helps you all. If am I wrong on something please post the correction and why I am wrong. I am tired now, I am gonna go pass out. * <br>

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Re: EXTERIOR FAQ: PLEASE READ ME FIRST
Saturday, June 12, 2004 11:15 AM
so u think u're cool now? <br>


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Re: EXTERIOR FAQ: PLEASE READ ME FIRST
Saturday, June 12, 2004 11:16 AM
You know it
I will try to post more on here about paint and such later. I am off to go see Harry Potter.

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Re: EXTERIOR FAQ: PLEASE READ ME FIRST
Saturday, June 12, 2004 3:02 PM
NOTE: MOST OF THE SITES ABOVE ARE POINTED TOWARDS CAVALIERS, HOWEVER SUNFIRE OWNERS SHOULD BE ABLE TO FIND WHAT THEY NEED BY SEARCHING AROUND ON THE SITES

Paint:
This is an important part of the car. Paint not only makes the car look nice and taken care of, but it shields the car from the elements of nature. If a car is cheaply painted, then the car has little protection and can start to rust. Rust = BAD.
One of the most important things to consider when painting a car is preparation. Again, if you are painting you own car, you do not need to hear this. If you don't know what I am talking about, then I suggest you learn or take your car else where to be painted. A car must be sanded down, primered, sanded, primered again, so and so forth. All the dents and dings and scratches must be taken out. This is very tidious work. If the car is being painted a completely different color, then all the jams (doors, hood, trunk, engine bay) must be painted to match.
So what does all this mean? A quality paint job will cost $$$$
A show car paint job that will win shows will cost $$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Will Maaco do a good job? Yes and No
It really depends on the Maaco and who owns and runs it. It also depens on the amount of money you spend. I myself have seen Maaco jobs, and I am impressed. The people spent around $600 (remember this is in Alabama, prices will vary). The color was not changed, but kits were painted to match.
I have seen individual shops do work that was a little better, and it cost over $1000, but that includes all the jams and prep work.

Painting Body Kits
Certain Body kits require special prepping before they are painted. Ask your local shop if the paint and warrant your body kit. When you take your kit to be prepped and painted, the kits should be removed from the car and individually prepped and painted. If the kit is molded, then you need not worry. Why does each part need to be painted seperately? Painting the parts seperately allows for all cracks and crevases to be reached, and helps reduce the chances or cracking and peeling.

So how much for a paint job for this and that and etc???
Shop around and ask. You can spend anywhere from $600 dollars up to $5000. It all depends on what you want and how much you wanna spend, and what all is being done, ie prep, and how much paint.

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Re: EXTERIOR FAQ: PLEASE READ ME FIRST
Saturday, June 12, 2004 3:16 PM
sticky soon to be...
Re: EXTERIOR FAQ: PLEASE READ ME FIRST
Saturday, June 12, 2004 3:23 PM
Nice post on pros and cons of fiberglass and urethayne
clicky

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Re: EXTERIOR FAQ: PLEASE READ ME FIRST
Saturday, June 12, 2004 3:24 PM
Damn looks like I am gonna have to go premium before too soon. This is a nice post for all those who want to go from 95-99 to 00-02 headlights. Very nice diagram and instructions.
Headlights

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Re: EXTERIOR FAQ: PLEASE READ ME FIRST
Saturday, June 12, 2004 3:46 PM
Awsome POST, anyone got a sticky?

I might add a full list of body kit's available

95-99 cavalier
drift www.winksonline.com
blitz www.winksonline.com
bomex www.winksonline.com
andys www.andysautosport.com
combat www.fxdesigns.com
black widow rear www.soundspeedsports.com
evo www.jtautostyle.com
importfighter www.rksport.com www.carcustoms.net
aerogear www.waysonusa.com
buddy club 2 www.buddyclub2.com
diza www.dizaracing.com
buddy club www.soundspeedsports.com
xtreme gt www.winksonline.com
razzi www.razzi.com

00-02 cavalier
type J www.carcustoms.net www.winksonline.com
Kato www.andysautosport.com
buddy club 2 www.buddyclub2.com
combat www.fxdesigns.com
avenger www.winksonline.com
bigmouth www.winksonline.com
xenon www.modifiedmotorsports.com
razzi www.razzi.com
drift www.winksonline.com
blitz www.winksonline.com
bomex www.winksonline.com

03-05 cavalier
Type J www.winksonline.com www.carcustoms.net
Bomex www.winksonline.com
Summit www.andysautosport.com
Drift www.winksonline.com
Evo www.jtautostyle.com
razzi www.razzi.com

Fender style's
z-3 www.winksonline.com
torque www.winksonline.com
laser www.winksonline.com
black widow www.winksonline.com
x1 www.krazykustoms.com
f1 www.krazykustoms.com

Hood styles
extractor www.classglass.com
snorkel www.class glass.com
Wings west EVO www.wingswest.com
invader www.winksonline.com
oem carbon www.winksonline.com
EVO www.winksonline.com
aerogear www.waysonusa.com
extractor www.spydarauto.com
ss style www.rksport.com
black widow style www.soundspeedsports.com
extractor www.rksport.com


Feel free to add to the list
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Re: EXTERIOR FAQ: PLEASE READ ME FIRST
Saturday, June 12, 2004 7:57 PM
winks i think u forgot the vis hoods, and a few ktis that were made by an affiliate of aerogear a while back cant rememerb the name of the company hope someone can help. <br>

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Re: EXTERIOR FAQ: PLEASE READ ME FIRST
Saturday, June 12, 2004 8:01 PM
Nice post, must have taken a while to write up. You trying to be the next Event ... <br>

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Re: EXTERIOR FAQ: PLEASE READ ME FIRST
Saturday, June 12, 2004 8:07 PM
Well lets just say I am putting the hours wasted at work to good use. I am sure I can post more things later, I am just a lil tired of it all right now. I had to write most of that in word because it took me so long. Lets keep up the info coming in. Winks, thanks for the list, I was thinking about doing something along the same lines. I would like to get another one together for heights of kits so people will have an idea of how far the kit is from the ground and how mixed kits will flow and such.

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Re: EXTERIOR FAQ: PLEASE READ ME FIRST
Saturday, June 12, 2004 8:09 PM
I only found one problem

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DAZINK -- Fenders are all the same on 3rd Gen Jbodies
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This is not true... 95-99 cavalier fenders have a bracket for the corner lights... where'as the 00-04 cavalier fenders do not....
But, all sunfire fenders are the same 95-04...

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Re: EXTERIOR FAQ: PLEASE READ ME FIRST
Saturday, June 12, 2004 8:18 PM
Well its small thing. They are the same size and shape. You do not have to get a replacement if you want to convert or you are only able to get a certain year. I forgot to add that part, but thank you for pointing it out.

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Re: EXTERIOR FAQ: PLEASE READ ME FIRST
Saturday, June 12, 2004 8:23 PM
Still a danm good write up none the less.... <br>


Re: EXTERIOR FAQ: PLEASE READ ME FIRST
Saturday, June 12, 2004 9:11 PM
here's a post i made about cleaning cars...
how to: cleaning cars
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Re: EXTERIOR FAQ: PLEASE READ ME FIRST
Sunday, June 13, 2004 1:18 AM
Holy shat! Nice post. to drunk to read, but skimming the post it seems to be very informational. Good thing for the backspace key............Good job Dazink...... <br>


Re: EXTERIOR FAQ: PLEASE READ ME FIRST
Sunday, June 13, 2004 5:16 AM
Excellent writ up, can say STICKY, thanks Dazink! <br>


Re: EXTERIOR FAQ: PLEASE READ ME FIRST
Sunday, June 13, 2004 5:59 AM
Thanks for all the positive feed back. I am gonna start another part to this tomorrow while at work. I plan on posting pictures of just about every single body kit available. There are way to many posts of "Please post such and such bodykit" Pray for me, cause I can see another long post ahead

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Re: EXTERIOR FAQ: PLEASE READ ME FIRST
Monday, June 14, 2004 3:49 AM
Looks like you guys for got one!

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Re: EXTERIOR FAQ: PLEASE READ ME FIRST
Monday, June 14, 2004 6:53 AM
Yeah, shame on me for forgetting streetline, since they now have the TRD kit.
I am still in the works for making a table measurements on each kit available for sunfires and cavaliers. If anyone reading this would like to add their help, just email with measurements for your kit. i.e. how much more the kits is closer to the ground on stock height. I need this for the skirts, front bumper and rear bumper. Thanks for everyones help in that.

On another note, I did a little more searching and found a nice post by Drop Top Paul on the front end swaps. This one is a more detailed then what I have listed above, and goes into the detail of what lights need to used and so forth.
Front End Swap

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Re: EXTERIOR FAQ: PLEASE READ ME FIRST
Monday, June 14, 2004 7:09 AM
I just now noticed I completely left out mirrors.
Mirrors
Like taillights, there are many different styles of mirrors available for the jbodies.
IMPORTANT. 2 door and 4 doors have different style mirros.
Types of mirrors:
Bomex
Toyota
M3 style by APC. These come with and without a LED turn signal.
There is also the rksport carbon fiber mirrors.
carcustoms.net has a collection of most of the mirrors.
Car Customs
Toyota mirrors are hard to find. Your best bet would be to try ebay. "Why are Toyota mirrors so popular?" There are those cavalier owners who strive to have a complete toyota cavalier. Also, the mirrors are different than the M3 style which is worn out. The mirrors are a task to be installed, but I happened to find a post with great detail.

Author: Orange Z24
Date: 08-01-03 07:24 PM



Ok today is a great day for all you Toyota Cavalier, mirror owners. I have made directions to wire up the mirrors. Yes, you will be able to fold them by a push of a button or your remote keyless entry that is if you want to go the extra step. These directions are if you have power mirrors already. If not you are going to need a lot of wire. You should have the connectors, the relay box (black box), and the switch for the Toyota Cavalier. If not contact, the people you got them from if you cannot get them from them contact www.street-line.net to get these parts.
If your mirrors are off Ebay, you probable did not get the wire harness. That is why I am taking the time to write this for you people. Ok now that we have gotten that out of the way, here we go and bear with me first time doing this.

First things first do not connect the wires permantly until the end.
Tools required
1. Wire strippers, at least one good pair
2. Test light or voltmeter. You want to make sure your grabbing the right wires right.
3. Soldering iron and some solder. If you are and anal person
4. Butt connectors for 14 gauge wire
5. 14 gauge wire, in a couple different colors. You want to wire the other mirrors right. A 50ft roll is good and plenty (NO LESS).
6. Heat shrink or electrical tape for your connections
7. Eye connectors for the relay ground.

STEP ONE
Ok take apart your doors if you cannot do this, then smack your self in the head and sell your mirrors. After your door is apart, unbolt your old mirrors and cut the wires to the mirror. Now mount your mirrors if you were lucky and got coupe mirrors you bastard. If you got sedan mirrors break out the saw zaw youíre going need to make them fit. On the other hand, you can have a body man fit them to your car. Either way make sure you have access to the mirror wires.

You should have the wire connector for the power door lock, the stock mirror switch and Toyota mirror wires hanging there. Cut your stock mirror switch off, right before the connector. Peel back the factory electrical tape and separate the wires. Stock wires on the switch should be orange, black, red, blue, white, and green.

Now letís look at the Toyota switch and connector for the mirrors.
It should have 8 wires on the connector! If not you may have got, a different year switch and connector then me. It should have these color wires on it.

Top
White Yellow
Black/White Red/White
Brown/White
Green
Black Yellow



Now look at the stock wires you just cut. The Toyota mirror switch and the stock switch have the same color wires for the left mirror .If you want to test it, connect the following wires together temporarily. White, the yellow right next to it and the green to the wires you just cut, this is the control the left mirror. To power the switch connect the orange and black to the bottom black and yellow wires. It should now work and you can control the mirror, if not your switch is either set on the right side or it doesnít work right. Get a new switch

STEP TWO
Ok mounting the switch. Pick a spot and make sure you can reach it with the wires you will be using. I put mine in the door next to the power door lock.
Now that you picked a spot blah, blah, blah. Look at your relay. It should have eleven wires.

BLUE/BLACK PINK/BLACK
TOP GREY/BLACK RED/BLACK
OF -> ORANGE BLACK
RELAY YELLOW/BLACK
GREEN/BLACK BROWN/BLACK
ORANGE/BLACK WHITE/BLACK

Ok find a place to mount the relay and make sure you can reach it with the wires.

STEP THREE

Here is the hard part. Left mirror white yellow wires right next to each other on the switch to same color wires on left mirror. Right mirror is the red/white, and brown/white wires same colors of the right mirror.
The green wire goes to both left and right mirrors. You need to connect the blue/white wire from the right mirror to the green wire on the left mirror and then connect them to the green wire on the switch. Do not permanently connect and of the wires yet unless you are positive you got the colors right. you can temporarily connect the power (yellow) and ground (black) to test it again to make sure the mirrors themselves are working.

Relay wiring. Pink/black, red/black, brown/black, and white/black go to the left mirror. Match color to color. Same with the right blue/black, orange/black, green/black, and grey/black same as left match color to color. Now your almost done.

The power wires are yellow on the switch and orange on the relay. The ground is black on both. Remember the yellow and black on the bottom of the switch are the power and ground.

By now you should have 2 wires left the yellow black on the relay and the black white on the switch. Put them together.

Test. They should fold if not you @!#$ up thatís why I said not to connect the wires permanitly yet. See now you can go back and fix them.

STEP FOUR
EXTRA STEP
If you want to be slick you can hook the black white wire from the switch to the power door lock blue wire. When you lock the doors the mirrors will fold in by them selves but you will need to open them by the switch when you get in the car. It looks cool. If you hit the lock button they fold hit it again they open.

Well there you go
Have fun

Mike
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Re: EXTERIOR FAQ: PLEASE READ ME FIRST
Monday, June 14, 2004 12:05 PM
i noticed you said that the trunk lids on sunfires in 03 changed... nope the changed that trunk bezel in the middle but the actual trunk lide is actually the same thing so in order to swap from 95-02 to 03-04 all you need to do is swap taillights trunk bezel and bumper just some more info for you faq, good write up
Re: EXTERIOR FAQ: PLEASE READ ME FIRST
Tuesday, June 15, 2004 5:02 AM
Something more to add.
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Re: EXTERIOR FAQ: PLEASE READ ME FIRST
Tuesday, June 15, 2004 6:56 PM
this seems like the right post so if i can get ahold of a 99 cavalier trunk lid... will it bolt right onto my 99 sf sedan. i know i will have to rewire my reverse lights but is there anything else?
Re: EXTERIOR FAQ: PLEASE READ ME FIRST
Tuesday, June 15, 2004 7:57 PM
Shouldn't be anything else. I would suggest getting a shaved cavalier trunk lid, or shaving it yourself. That way you don't have to worry about rewiring the reverse lights. You have to think what will you do with the empty holes in your rear bumper if you don't have the reverse lights. You can rewire the lights, and get a cavalier rear bumper of sorts. Its up to you and how much work you wanna put into it. Good luck.

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