Dan Morrison wrote:these are from Mallett right? if so, can I come over to Berea and pick one up?cause Im really close.
and what about the solstice gearbox, do you have those for sale to?
I can't say where their from until we decide exactuallt how were gonna sell them but now we don't have the gear boxes.
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If some one close wants to buy an engine i drop it in their car labor free and let every one know what it takes.
85 fiero GT 3800 sc swap in progress
98 Sunfire 4.9 and AWD swap in progress
85 S-10 turbocharged 3800
83 Citation x-11 turbocharged 3.1 with AWD 6000 running gear SOLD
94 Bonneville SLE daily driver
94 Bonneville SSEi wifes pearl pink daily driver
93 Bonneville SSEi I duno why
94 Bonneville SSEi parts for the rest of them
T J wrote:If some one close wants to buy an engine i drop it in their car labor free and let every one know what it takes.
Now that's a hell of an idea! Makes me wish I lived close, lol.
15.3 @ 89.97mph, 14's on the way?
hey where are you at i would be willing to do the drop and let everyone knwo how it goes!
Are you sure you can drop a 2.2 ecotec head onto one of these blocks?
well if these are a pretty much direct drop and i can get VVT in my 3rd gen cavy, i am down for this, so um i can be the guine pig, im california so let me know
i'm in ohio
85 fiero GT 3800 sc swap in progress
98 Sunfire 4.9 and AWD swap in progress
85 S-10 turbocharged 3800
83 Citation x-11 turbocharged 3.1 with AWD 6000 running gear SOLD
94 Bonneville SLE daily driver
94 Bonneville SSEi wifes pearl pink daily driver
93 Bonneville SSEi I duno why
94 Bonneville SSEi parts for the rest of them
NJHK (The JBO Negro) wrote:Slammed Ohv wrote:someone needs to get one and put the 2.0 supercharger on it....mmmmm boosted 2.4 with VVT mmmm
10.5:1 Compression + 10 PSI = Becareful of Detonation
Good point, worth a try though? No?
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dario wrote:NJHK (The JBO Negro) wrote:Slammed Ohv wrote:someone needs to get one and put the 2.0 supercharger on it....mmmmm boosted 2.4 with VVT mmmm
10.5:1 Compression + 10 PSI = Becareful of Detonation
Good point, worth a try though? No?
I'd worry about having it properly installed before you try and supercharge it.
Also, a reflash would help tons otherwise you'd have a bunch of problems trying to tune it.
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i htought it was 11:1??? meh, what do i know
i know of a turbo 2.4 that put down around 250
stock internals
TJ, have you checked to see if a 2.2 ecotec head will fit the 2.4 block? I had heard they are different blocks and the heads would not be interchangable?
sweet deal ! now to get it to work
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NJHK (The JBO Negro) wrote:dario wrote:NJHK (The JBO Negro) wrote:Slammed Ohv wrote:someone needs to get one and put the 2.0 supercharger on it....mmmmm boosted 2.4 with VVT mmmm
10.5:1 Compression + 10 PSI = Becareful of Detonation
Good point, worth a try though? No?
I'd worry about having it properly installed before you try and supercharge it.
Also, a reflash would help tons otherwise you'd have a bunch of problems trying to tune it.
I'm pretty sure compression ratio on these is 10:1, this from a reliable source, so boost should be good to go on this bottom end. Now I have also read that this bottom end is full forged like the 2.0SC, but not from a reliable source, anyone have any info on that?
15.3 @ 89.97mph, 14's on the way?
Aye the compression ratio is the same as the 2.2 ecotec.
Ian Brydon wrote:NJHK (The JBO Negro) wrote:dario wrote:NJHK (The JBO Negro) wrote:Slammed Ohv wrote:someone needs to get one and put the 2.0 supercharger on it....mmmmm boosted 2.4 with VVT mmmm
10.5:1 Compression + 10 PSI = Becareful of Detonation
Good point, worth a try though? No?
I'd worry about having it properly installed before you try and supercharge it.
Also, a reflash would help tons otherwise you'd have a bunch of problems trying to tune it.
I'm pretty sure compression ratio on these is 10:1, this from a reliable source, so boost should be good to go on this bottom end. Now I have also read that this bottom end is full forged like the 2.0SC, but not from a reliable source, anyone have any info on that?
Eric Esler wrote:Aye the compression ratio is the same as the 2.2 ecotec.
Sorry but that's incorrect...
Just to show you the correct compression, I wanted to specifically find proof. The HHR has the 2.4 VVT motor which share the same specs as all the other 2.4 ECOs in any other GM model.
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Engine DOHC Ecotec(R) 2.4-Liter, I4, 16-Valve, SEFI Engine
Availability Opt
Compression Ratio 10.50
Horsepower@RPM 172 hp @6200rpm
Torque Lbs. Per Ft 162@ 5000
Cylinder Configuration In-line
Valves per cylinder 4
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CR is 10.5:1 as NJHK said.
The only difference is the displacement (both stroke and bore). And the VVT in the head. But otherwise they are damn near identical engines to the 2.2L. Swapping would take some doing, mostly with tuning an existing ECU to the new specs. I would recommend a ECM swap to get the VVT working though.
I have had people tell me and link to sites where the ecotec is said to have 10:1 and 10.5:1. When I was researching the 2.4 I had found sites that said it was 10:1 so I figured the 2 engines have the same compression. Now i look and I can't find any that say the 2.4 is 10:1 though.
For 800 hundred bucks i'll take 2 i'm only 5 hours away...
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Sorry but that's incorrect...
Just to show you the correct compression, I wanted to specifically find proof. The HHR has the 2.4 VVT motor which share the same specs as all the other 2.4 ECOs in any other GM model.
I've been looking online as well, and I can only find 10.4:1 or 10.6:1, but I trust my source. I'll keep looking, so far I havn't been able to find any info direct from GM.
15.3 @ 89.97mph, 14's on the way?
So can anyone answere me, if i get the 2.4 does it bolt right in, do i need a new harness, PCM, throttle body?? if i drive to ohio hand you cash there can you install it and i can drive home, thanks!
not all the 2.4 ecotecs are the same. atleast not with horse power so couldn't the compression also be different
example......the 2.4 ecotec available in the cobalt ss(non superchared) had 174hp where as the solstice has 178hp (correct me if I'm wrong)
and finally.....if these 2.4 eco's are from the solstice then they will be rwd which means more work then just 6 wires for the V VT it will take a lot more work.......not that it wouldnt be great to have a rear wheel cavy just a lot of work and money for those of us who cant do this our selves.
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Boorad wrote:not all the 2.4 ecotecs are the same. atleast not with horse power so couldn't the compression also be different
example......the 2.4 ecotec available in the cobalt ss(non superchared) had 174hp where as the solstice has 178hp (correct me if I'm wrong)
and finally.....if these 2.4 eco's are from the solstice then they will be rwd which means more work then just 6 wires for the V VT it will take a lot more work.......not that it wouldnt be great to have a rear wheel cavy just a lot of work and money for those of us who cant do this our selves.
More than likely they are all misprints but if there was a difference of 10.5:1 and 10:1, there would be a big power loss in between the both.
Also everyone just to point out something...
The 2.4s listed in the pictures, they are mounted with a RWD transmission. You could take off the transmission and bellhousing and convert to a FWD setup but you would need the transmission and bellhousing that was made for the 2.4 ECOTEC. You would also need the transmission mounts because they are different as well.
And no...you can't use any other transmission from a J-body on the 2.4 ECOTEC.
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More than likely they are all misprints but if there was a difference of 10.5:1 and 10:1, there would be a big power loss in between the both.
Also everyone just to point out something...
The 2.4s listed in the pictures, they are mounted with a RWD transmission. You could take off the transmission and bellhousing and convert to a FWD setup but you would need the transmission and bellhousing that was made for the 2.4 ECOTEC. You would also need the transmission mounts because they are different as well.
And no...you can't use any other transmission from a J-body on the 2.4 ECOTEC.
Not that I like to argue or anything, but a quick goolge search turned up this:
http://www.bgsoflex.com/crchange.html
I punched in 10:1, 170hp, and turned the compression up to 10.5:1 and got 172hp, a 1% increase, so I wouldn't call that a big change in power at all.
2nd, why wouldn't any ecotec tranny bolt up to this engine? Are not all ecotecs the same bellhousing bolt pattern? Do you have any links to proof that they are different? I'm not trying to be difficult, I really do want to know the answers to these questions. Also, has anyone else heard that these 2.4's are forged bottom ends, or heard that they aren't?
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