FF= Front eingine, Front wheel drive
FR=Front eingine, Rear wheel drive
MR=Mid eingine, Rear wheel drive
AWD=all wheel drive (usally front eingine)
Example Toyota MR2
This coming from a guy who has no profile. Hmmm, I can see where this is going. Prepare for a ban, a$$hat.
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Hey Evan lemme know if you find anything in VA I live down independence....and I would love to do some type event w/my j!
It's just now cutting it's teeth.
I have attended a lot of these drifting competitions in california only, and i know its new in the states i mean as far as being a competition. most of the people that drive these cars even the front wheel drive drifters are professional japanese drivers some drive for the jgtc. i helped out in D1 and GT live for Drift Association. i know drifting is not the fastest way around the track, alot of track drivers avoid drifting, but drifting is more of an art like ice skating. its not impossible to try to drift a cavalier but it will take a lot of talent and effort. i dont think that our trannies will hold up to this kind of tourment also consider what it will do to the chassis i mean is this what one would want to do to a daily driven car? i know in rear wheel drive counter steer then weight transfer then trying to get a balance the hand brake is used to slide out longer. if one really wants to drift i would suggest to get a rear wheel drive car. but if one wants to be the first j body to something like this good luck. i heard thats the civic is one of the ff drive cars to drift do to it having a short base and the motor can put out a lot of power, pick up speed. honestly i would just go to a driving school.
TOYOTA 24 S wrote:I have attended a lot of these drifting competitions in california only, and i know its new in the states i mean as far as being a competition. most of the people that drive these cars even the front wheel drive drifters are professional japanese drivers some drive for the jgtc. i helped out in D1 and GT live for Drift Association. i know drifting is not the fastest way around the track, alot of track drivers avoid drifting, but drifting is more of an art like ice skating. its not impossible to try to drift a cavalier but it will take a lot of talent and effort. i dont think that our trannies will hold up to this kind of tourment also consider what it will do to the chassis i mean is this what one would want to do to a daily driven car? i know in rear wheel drive counter steer then weight transfer then trying to get a balance the hand brake is used to slide out longer. if one really wants to drift i would suggest to get a rear wheel drive car. but if one wants to be the first j body to something like this good luck. i heard thats the civic is one of the ff drive cars to drift do to it having a short base and the motor can put out a lot of power, pick up speed. honestly i would just go to a driving school.
I bought my car for $1500 im not real worried about messing it up. I like FF drifting better because it takes more effort, however when I get another car i am thinking about converting my cavalier to rear wheel drive and change the motor to a 2.4 twincam like in the third gen Z24's
i have been to a d-1 event and have heard sevral diffrent opnions on ff drift... my opnion is that the only true drift you get in a ff car is in a down hill event.. that is just my opnion..
Hmm, I actually find it easier in a FF car. Then again, the only FR cars I've drifted were heavy V8 cars.
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Yeah, i drift, slide, drag, what ever you call it all the time when im going to work or whatever, i live on a lot of gravel, that is the sh!t for doing it on. Yeah, i got a system and everything, its pretty easy, just get enough speed, i like about 60 mph (on gravel, i know most of you guys are flipping out, but i live on it, so thats pretty normal), wait until you almost get to the turn, probably about 300 ft hit the brakes, get the speed down to about 30-40 mph, crank the wheel, and have at it, i also have an auto tranny, but yeah, its loads of fun.
Id love to show off my drifting skills ( small movie coming soon) but all mine drifts are in snow. Come on whats more fun than getting your cavalier sideways for 10 seconds???
Evan Griggs wrote: and brake controle are very important
i wanna see this joker hit the brakes when his a$$ end is already coming around on his cavy, please take pics while u are headed for the fence and ur cavy is wound up in it.
trust me, with my old piece 'o crap 95 cavy, auto 2.2, i woul dhave a hay day, every backroad corner i would slide around it like i was "drifting" and i have only gone in the ditch once, i was doing about 70, and the corner wasnt tight enough, so i started on the inside of the corner, headed quickly to the outside of the corner, and jerked the wheel back hard to get it sideways, yea, ditch time......please, dont ever do this, i thought i was dead.....but i have quite the stories to tell about "drifting" in my old cavy, im quite good at it too, the easiest way to get out of it is not to use to brake, and just pull urself out of it with the gas.....dont use the brake, bad things can happen
^ what a dumb ass, you obviously didnt have good brake controle thats why you wound up in the ditch. and why the hell were you trying to drift were there are ditches any way? and BTW you have to use the gas while your braking so that only the rear breaks lose traction and not the front this is real common with FF drifting.
i didnt catch the gas and brake part, i jsut saw that u used the brakes, sry bout that, if u just wnat the back ones to lock up, e-brake does a good job for ya? then u dont have to mess around with the gas and brake, and no, i know why i went into the ditch, it is cuz it was a wide turn, and it wasnt tight enough to go around it sideways, so i made it tighter, and when i came around, i wasnt lined up, thats ok, i didnt care about the car, if u only knew the things that car has gone though.....hmmmm
I'm sorry im not trying to flame any one and i know what your talking about with the breakes cuz one time in the snow I didn't get enough traction with the front and compleatly lost the back I had to counter-steer like five times to get straight agin.
Evan Griggs wrote:FF= Front eingine, Front wheel drive
FR=Front eingine, Rear wheel drive
MR=Mid eingine, Rear wheel drive
AWD=all wheel drive (usally front eingine)
Example Toyota MR2
Not to be rude or out of place but why is it everybody and there grandmother have to say things like this. Where else are they going to have the engine in a front wheel drive car I mean come on is it just because of Grantourismo or is that the best way to describe the powertrain layout of cars?
Ryan Butchart 1 man, 1 car, 1 lap at a time.
I organize "time trial events" every weekend on a frozen lake, I know all about drifting a FWD car. My drifts usually last at least 10 seconds though, and I've gotten damn good at em! Anyone near Vermont is invited...www.sccv.org. Nothing beats a nice clean run on super-studded tires @ 55 mph the whole time! Think autocross on ice.
where were you a week ago when i posted about drifting in the versus forum. i kept getting flamed saying its impossible. i knew i did so i let the asshats say whatever they wanted.
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it's not ghetto, it's "in progress"
Yea drifting in a ff car isn't a hard thing 2 do but 2 do it u have 2 beat the @!#$ out of ur car . A cupple weeks before disposing of my old 1990 z24 i figured i'd try out a few drifts it wasn't that hard just get lots off speed aproching the corner let of the gas just before the turn crank the wheel and get on the gas hard.The old z24 seemed 2 have a nice balance for drifting.
wow suprised you didn't just get a bunch of understeer and plow into a guard rail or somthing. thats the only problem i have with drifting our cars w/o major suspension mods you tend to get a lot of under steer.
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i am thinking about converting my cavalier to rear wheel drive
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All I can say is...
I wanna drift in a rwd cavy.
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Heh i saw a Turbocharged 5.0 VOLVO Shoe Box at a couple auto cross events here in MD. Talk about custom fabb.
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I'm definittly interested in this subject as well, I have been doing some practice as well. one of the things I was thinking about, (lets keep in mind this is just an idea so if your going to be an a$$ keep it to yourself) what if you had TWO e-brakes, one controlling the left rear and one controlling the right rear. now I know it's not neccessary but it may help start the drift cause when you think about it when you start a drift (lets say turning left) your left rear tire is the one that really breaks loose and the back right just basically follows and drags.. So with TWO e-brakes you can pull one up and have more control over the slide less likely to spin out ... Anyone else see what I'm saying or am I looking at this at the wrong way?
