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Monday, June 16, 2008 5:43 PM
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A Cavalier Attitude
What Drives Passion for a Car That's Utterly Middle-of-the-Road? Its Cult Holds the Key.

By Neely Tucker
Washington Post Staff Writer
Sunday, June 8, 2008; M01

Somewhere out there is the very last Chevrolet Cavalier -- a tin-can testament to American mediocrity -- that was ever built. Maybe it's in the back of a rental-car lot in Pittsburgh, sitting there like a lost dog in the rain, hoping a little old lady will pick it up and take it home. We just don't know.

This is because when the last one rolled off the line at the General Motors plant in Lordstown, Ohio, in 2005, the good people who'd been paid $18 or $20 an hour to build 5 million of them over the past two decades didn't really care. It came off the line and went off to die at some dealer's lot. It was one of the most mundane cars ever built.

Now, for reasons that defy the Divine Order of the Universe, there is a subculture of guys who adore it. Who create Cavalier Web sites and Cavalier car clubs and Cavalier chat rooms. It's like starting a fan club for a lawn mower.

"A cultural phenomenon," says Edward Loh, a senior editor at Motor Trend.

The Cavvy wasn't even bad enough to be a joke, like the AMC Gremlin, or a kitschy embarrassment, like the Chevette. It was just the cur of the compact rental fleet at the Airport at the End of the Mind, the joyless perk of the junior sales exec, the Motel 6 of the American automobile. By the late 1990s, the company was reportedly losing $1,000 on every one sold.

It was "the car that deservedly got GM in trouble," says Paul A. Eisenstein, publisher of the Car Connection, a popular automotive Web site.

"The drive is memorable because it was the worst we've experienced in recent memory," according to Edmunds, one of the most respected auto analysts, in an online review. Edmunds said the Cavvy was "homely." The engine shook "like a caffeine addict going through withdrawal." And: "Road noise is present at all times." And: "The seats are uncomfortable for any length of time."

Something is going on here, something on the darker edge of American possibility, something scary in the back aisles of AutoZone. Why would teenagers, young men, all in search of hipness, devote themselves to such mediocrity? Surely they are strange young men, which makes them sort of just like us, so we like them right away. We think maybe they are a particular type of American antihero: young men in search of Available Glory. This is a sense of unique identity, of art, of self-expression, that might be found within the bounds of your paycheck.

We happily set out to find them. We called Brian Armstead, co-host of "Autosense," a talk show on XM radio. He covers hip car stuff. We said we're looking for Chevy Cavalier car clubs.

There was a pause.

"Are you messing with me?"

Nope.

Pause.

Brian?

"A Cavalier car club? I never heard of any-- the Cavalier ? That's like a club for uh, uh, a Vega." He says the last as though he had to spit.

He says to try Ron Pemberton at the Unity Thunder Car Club, based in the D.C. area. They've got really great rides; sportscaster James Brown is a member. They love Chevys.

Punch punch punch buttons, phone rings, introductions.

Ron, we're talking about the Chevy Cavalier here, and --

"The Cavalier?" He laughs. HAHA.

He says he's never had a call about a Cavalier. "Muscle cars, Corvettes, Camaros, Chevelles, those are the top ones at Chevy. I thought that was what you were calling about."

And then:

"The Cavalier, man? Really? HAHAHAHAHA!"
Unexpected Power

You know what?

Cavalier guys love this. Go ahead, yuk it up. They'll take a used Cavvy for five grand and get in the garage and turn it into something that'll shame your 20 grand store-bought Civic, or anything else you saw in "The Fast and the Furious."

"When I drive by, I want people to look at me and say, 'Wow, that's a Cavalier,' " Josh Detorie is saying.

Detorie's got a cleaning rag, and he is working it over his maxed-out Cavvy. He's tall and lanky and soft-spoken and has reddish hair cut short and a wispy beard and is 23 and is smoking a cigarette. The evening light is going in the apartment parking lot in Towson, Md. He and the car have been together since 2004; he and Anna Hutson, his fiancee, have been together about that long, too. They have a daughter, Zoe, who will be 2 this summer. Zoe, she's toodling around on the sidewalk. Detorie and Hutson and Zoe and Detorie's mom and her lady friend who drives an Orkin truck all live in an apartment one floor up. It's a garden apartment complex with a pool.

"Most of the people who drive muscle cars, yeah, they say stuff about the Cavalier. I say that muscle cars are built the way they need to be. This is something to get new power out of. It's fun in the process. You do it all yourself."

He won something like a dozen trophies at car shows last year, but mostly minor stuff. He wants to get "to the next level," where you can be like in the top 10 and win $300 or something. The car shows are great. You talk cars all day, get ideas from other rides, then go back to the hotel. A guy in his car club, his girlfriend has a stripper pole. They set that up and see if you can hold your body out sideways. Beer pong is popular.

Detorie works maintenance at Sunbelt Rentals, a place where you can rent backhoes and tractors and things. He wears a work shirt with his name stitched on the right pocket, putting in six days a week. He's at work at 7 a.m. He never knew his dad and was raised by his mom and her parents. He packs his lunch.

Hutson is 24 and works at a day-care center.

"I'm in the potty-training room. It's ridiculous." She's sitting on the curb painting her toenails.

"Everything has to be perfect with me. I have to look cute when I go out. Perfect. He probably told you that."

Detorie had in fact not mentioned that. His head is under the hood. He's tweaking wires to the throttle position sensor.

The car is candy-blue and silver. It's gorgeous.

"I have a couple thousand pictures of my car from what it looked like when I bought it until now. It wasn't blue and silver originally. It was black and silver, but the black got to be so much to keep up with. Oxidation kicks in a lot faster. I was working so much I wasn't able to keep up with it."

He produces several hundred pictures of the car on his iPod Touch.

He's reworked just about everything but the taillights. His Web page lists more than 50 modifications. Tires upgraded four sizes. New suspension. A GM performance supercharger under the hood. A 1,200-watt Sony amplifier. Flat-screen television in the trunk, television monitors mounted in the visors. Racing seats. Custom-made sliders. Triple engine gauges, like eyeballs, on the driver's side of the dash. Neon blue lights under the car and inside, too; it lights up like the control room of an aircraft carrier.

Of course it has remote start.

Josh hits that and the car rumbles to life, deep-throated and ready. Friday night. They're going up to the mall so Hutson can get her nails done. She says she doesn't chew them if she gets them done. He has on the shirt for his car club, Team VI, which has all types of cars in it. He and one other guy have Cavvies.

This shirt has his name on the pocket, too, only it got messed up, and they put his name and type of car on the same line.

It reads, "Josh Cavalier," as if it's his last name.
The Cav Cult

The Cavalier was once the best-selling car in America, and that alone makes you wonder whatever happened to this country. It was 1984 and 1985. It was priced to sell -- like, for $14,000. It came in a three-door hatchback, a four-door, a coupe and a convertible. There was the Z-24. The car was updated three times over the next 13 years, and then GM lost interest. It died in 2005.

There is no real national organization to the Cavvy phenomenon.

There is a J-Body Organization out of Arizona (named for GM's framework for the Cav, the Pontiac Sunbird and such), and Clubcav.com and V6z24.com and the Cavalier page at Cardomain.com. The latter has more than 9,000 Cavalier owners listing their hyped-up vehicles -- more than any other car except the Camaro, which is, like, a real car.

It's big in the Midwest.

"It's more like a cult than a membership thing," says Mike Baker, a 20-something graphic designer and president of Team VI. He is working with a Scion, but counts himself "a Cavalier man."

People think this is funny.

You should see the scorn on Web sites, in chat rooms:

"Why would any man want a Cavalier in the first place? And if that's what you have, why would you want to make it . . . embarrassing by tuning it?"

"My '95 Buick LeSabre beats Cavaliers."

On StreetFire.net, where guys post street-race videos, there's one of two Cavaliers going side by side down a highway, and the guy with the camera pans over to the speedometer and shows them doing . . . 105 mph.

"This is the slowest race I have ever seen," writes one poster.

Sneer if you want. Cav guys don't care. They shouldn't. Amping up a homely ride is American Romantic, like Bruce Springsteen, only older.

A quick history of customized cars in pop-culture America:

After World War II, GIs came home with a little money in their pocket and a new sense of working with mechanics. Out in Southern California, they bought old beaters, mostly from Ford. Like a '29 Model A Roadster, or anything after '32 with the flathead V-8. Something wasn't right with the engine but, hell, they could fix that. Get out the tools, ratchet, ratchet. Honey, crank it when I tell you to. Right. Give it some gas. Good. Good. Slam hood, wipe hands on a rag. Take it out on the strip and turn the quarter faster than anything else alive.

The hot rod was born out of reworked junk. That was part of the glory of it, the great young male joke on respectable society.

America at mid-century, a sense of all things possible, a sense that nothing was really real.
Keeping Out of Trouble

Sunday afternoon, a day off. Detorie's in the garage at his grandparents' house. It's overcast and windy and bleak, and the cars are hissing past on the multi-lane roadway out front.

It's his dream space. A hydraulic jack. Spare bumpers, boxes, parts, a 60-gallon air compressor in the corner. Meguiar's detailing sprays and polishes.

"Chevy Cavalier SS," he's spraypainted on the wall. Also "Zoe" and "Anna."

Inside the house, Detorie's "Pa," the grandfather who raised him, "never had nothing."

Joe Salzman tells you this without bitterness. He left school in the sixth grade to work, pumping gas in Upstate New York, helping the family pay the bills. He's standing in the living room, lots of pictures of the kids on the walls. He's in his 70s and still works six days a week, 2 in the afternoon till 10 at night, at the post office, overseeing the vehicle maintenance unit.

"When I was coming up, it was just work, work, work. Nowadays, all these kids are so far into drugs and alcohol. The car, it keeps him out of all that. He works, and he works steady. He doesn't have that drug and alcohol problem, and that means all the world to me."

It's Salzman who has bankrolled almost all the modifications on the car.

He and his wife, Ruth, like having the boy close. Ruth lost her daughter, Belinda, in 1973.

She was fine, just fine, then started to get really tired. Leukemia. She was 17, and her hair started falling out with the chemo. She was in the ground the next year.

Guts. Work. The kids. The roadway out front of the house. Here is what has been earned, or what God has allowed. A sense of Sunday afternoon, the quiet.
Limited Possibilities

Detorie pulls out a few minutes later, candy-blue Cavalier rumbling, the body four inches off the asphalt. His car club meeting is outside I-695, the Baltimore Beltway, in the parking lot of Lucas Brothers Flooring. It's right behind a Dunkin' Donuts. By the time darkness falls, maybe 20 cars and guys are standing around, hands in pockets against the chill, shadows on the pavement, it's all about Available Glory and the American car.

Detorie has his blue neon lights on the Cav, the doors open, talking, laughing, smoking. Sunday night, work looming tomorrow morning, the outer suburbs, a place in America where everything seems so real and so little seems possible.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/06/05/AR2008060502013_pf.html


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Re: "A Cavalier Attitude" - Washington Post Article
Monday, June 16, 2008 5:53 PM
no mention of the org...



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Re: "A Cavalier Attitude" - Washington Post Article
Monday, June 16, 2008 5:55 PM
[quote=BoltZ DesignZ™]
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There is a J-Body Organization out of Arizona (named for GM's framework for the Cav, the Pontiac Sunbird and such)


Isn't this kind of mentioning the org?

It was an interesting article to read, but I don't really know what the meaning of the article is...



Re: "A Cavalier Attitude" - Washington Post Article
Monday, June 16, 2008 5:58 PM
Sorry that was supposed to say:

Isn't this kind of mentioning the org?

It was an interesting article to read, but I don't really know what the meaning of the article is...




Re: "A Cavalier Attitude" - Washington Post Article
Monday, June 16, 2008 6:00 PM
Short Hand wrote:no mention of the org...


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There is a J-Body Organization out of Arizona


Which is where Dave.org hails as well as where the server should be.









Re: "A Cavalier Attitude" - Washington Post Article
Monday, June 16, 2008 6:04 PM
Short Hand wrote:no mention of the org...


Just what I was thinking.



I had something really funny to put here but it was too long.
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Monday, June 16, 2008 6:06 PM
[quote=BoltZ DesignZ™]
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A Cavalier AttitudeThere is a J-Body Organization out of Arizona (named for GM's framework for the Cav, the Pontiac Sunbird and such), and Clubcav.com and V6z24.com and the Cavalier page at Cardomain.com. The latter has more than 9,000 Cavalier owners listing their hyped-up vehicles -- more than any other car except the Camaro, which is, like, a real car.




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Re: "A Cavalier Attitude" - Washington Post Article
Monday, June 16, 2008 6:07 PM
interesting




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Re: "A Cavalier Attitude" - Washington Post Article
Monday, June 16, 2008 6:08 PM
ihavenolife000 wrote:It was an interesting article to read, but I don't really know what the meaning of the article is...


the point was to bash J-Bodies pretty much




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Re: "A Cavalier Attitude" - Washington Post Article
Monday, June 16, 2008 6:13 PM
i know that guy
Re: "A Cavalier Attitude" - Washington Post Article
Monday, June 16, 2008 6:21 PM
and no mention of fuel mileage or any numbers. nothing of worthwhile composure, lol just a bash session.

Re: "A Cavalier Attitude" - Washington Post Article
Monday, June 16, 2008 6:48 PM
wow... must've been a slow news day or something? i honestly dont understand why they would write such a long article about cavaliers.

parts of it were very true though... most of us got our cars for cheap and love being the underdog.

i do like how they compared us to old school hot rodders though.




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Re: "A Cavalier Attitude" - Washington Post Article
Monday, June 16, 2008 7:14 PM
its a true article, but you could replace "cavalier" with "civic", or "focus", or "neon" or any other mediocre piece of sheet metal that is the economy-compact line of the automotive industry we obsess over.



Re: "A Cavalier Attitude" - Washington Post Article
Monday, June 16, 2008 7:21 PM
This highlights the typical attiude towards cavaliers. Most people think beat up 4 door 2.2l automatic turd with hubcaps when you say cavalier.

It is kind of nice being the underdog.

Funny that he bashed cavaliers and compared us to the AMC crowd but not to the neon, pt crusier, focus, or honda crowd. I do not think the author had a clue about the sport compact scene and I doubt Brian Armstead, co-host of "Autosense did either judging by his response. This highlights the typical old guy who only knows old cars. They laugh at us and I laugh at them. They keep living in the past oblivious to the current scene that is passing them by.



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Re: "A Cavalier Attitude" - Washington Post Article
Monday, June 16, 2008 7:32 PM
SSLOBLT (StealthCavalier) wrote:its a true article, but you could replace "cavalier" with "civic", or "focus", or "neon" or any other mediocre piece of sheet metal that is the economy-compact line of the automotive industry we obsess over.


QFT


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Re: "A Cavalier Attitude" - Washington Post Article
Monday, June 16, 2008 7:44 PM
I say just keep on doing what we're doing. That should turn the tides, hopefully. If not, I doubt anyone will loose sleep over it. I still love my Cavalier.

Why was our cars called "cavvy/cavvies" on the article? As if it's compared to undergarment(s).





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Re: "A Cavalier Attitude" - Washington Post Article
Monday, June 16, 2008 7:46 PM
about the only thing they said i really agreed with was the seats, but that was from edmunds...

it was an ok article, really nothing special. started out as a bashing fest then turned a few good notes. maybe this guy should get invited to the big bash this year lol something like a good cople dozen j-bodies should help him write a pullitzer winning article.

the comparisson to the old school hot rodders seems to be very true though. its always about what can you afford and what can you do with it.

i do find it disgusting though that these "car guys" cant even show some respect for other car guys. i show love to all (civic owners, muslce car guys, etc). we are all doing this for the same reasons, its fun and its a hobby/passion.


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Monday, June 16, 2008 7:58 PM
Chuck (Chesterton) wrote:
SSLOBLT (StealthCavalier) wrote:its a true article, but you could replace "cavalier" with "civic", or "focus", or "neon" or any other mediocre piece of sheet metal that is the economy-compact line of the automotive industry we obsess over.


QFT

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Also google of original article yielded this if anyone is familiar with him-





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Re: "A Cavalier Attitude" - Washington Post Article
Monday, June 16, 2008 8:05 PM
i am the same as whitegoose. i try to wave, associate, talk to, or meet people who are into their car, nomatter the car. i have friends with cars from a 200$ beater civic, to a 100,000 dodge viper, and beyond. my car club consists of
2 cavaliers
3 eclipses (various years)
2 camaros (last gen)
4 mustangs (v6, and 3GT's)
Lotus Exige
Celica GTS
Impala SS
G35 sedan
BMW 325 (89)
E46 325
2 civics
RSX (K24 swap)
RSX -S
Subaru WRX
STi
subaru SVX
subaru BRAT
Grand Prix
Grand AM GT
coBalt SS
Ion Redline
Ford Model T (1926)
Golf
GTi

thats all i can think of, i think there may be a few more lol its funny how people are brought together, even though this entire article seemed to have the idea to bash, then praise, they forgot the praise.
Re: "A Cavalier Attitude" - Washington Post Article
Monday, June 16, 2008 9:19 PM
gotta give props to the guy for venting. I mean after all, he was pissed cuz he raced someone in a Z puttin down 500 wheel and made his 'vette look like a focus


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Re: "A Cavalier Attitude" - Washington Post Article
Monday, June 16, 2008 10:03 PM
like, that was such a well-written article, and stuff.
obviously an ignorant jackass





Re: "A Cavalier Attitude" - Washington Post Article
Monday, June 16, 2008 10:13 PM
does anyone have his email address??? as the owner of J-body Source, i'd have a few words / corrections for him (and it has nothing to do with my site not being listed, my site is way small right now)

We're discussing this in JBO Chat right now... if Mr. Tucker does stumble across this post before an email is sent. Feel free to come to

irc.j-body.org
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Channel: #jbo-general


My nick is Speedline Z there.. i may not be always on, but my client is always logged in.

but yea... we'll give you all the corrections you need to write an ethical correction article ...

haha (he'll never show =P )

but we are discussing it, if anyone here wants to join in... just go to the address above with your IRC client or click the "CHAT" link under the forums on the menu bar to the left!!!!!!



Re: "A Cavalier Attitude" - Washington Post Article
Tuesday, June 17, 2008 3:32 AM
the funny part is everyone on here getting mad



Re: "A Cavalier Attitude" - Washington Post Article
Tuesday, June 17, 2008 3:51 AM
Let them hate so long as they fear.



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Re: "A Cavalier Attitude" - Washington Post Article
Tuesday, June 17, 2008 5:18 AM
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Detorie's got a cleaning rag, and he is working it over his maxed-out Cavvy.


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He won something like a dozen trophies at car shows last year, but mostly minor stuff. He wants to get "to the next level," where you can be like in the top 10 and win $300 or something.





what a tool





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