Well on thursday i have off work and im going to go to the junkyard and see what they charger for the 2.2 icm and coils. From there i will be able to get some solid pricing.
You can just take the 3 wires out of the stock ICM and run them to any coils you want. I have been doing this for 4 months. It will work.. and as for diagrams from the 2.2 and the 2.4 ICM.. the wires are all the same colors.. but I have one here....
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only reason i need the 2.2 icm is for the fact imeed a place to mount the coils and a way to have them wired
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only reason i need the 2.2 icm is for the fact imeed a place to mount the coils
any/all coils easily mount onto a 2.2 cruise module bracket or a simple metal HomeBrew bracket
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and a way to have them wired
the factory ICM has 3 wires that go to the factory coils... just grab those 3 wires and it's the same.
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wrench has anybody you know done this on an eco yet? i saw your other post and i REALLY want to do this but i have an eco not an ld9. will it all wire up the same? being that the eco is a DIS and so is the ld9?
ge_forcez22 wrote:You can just take the 3 wires out of the stock ICM and run them to any coils you want. I have been doing this for 4 months. It will work.. and as for diagrams from the 2.2 and the 2.4 ICM.. the wires are all the same colors.. but I have one here....
From the pic of your engine bay, looks like your using the 2200 ICM and coils..... are you using the 2.4 ICM at all, or completely bypassing the 2.4 ICM and using the 2200 ICM instead?
I just dont believe in using a 2200 ICM in place or the 2.4 ICM. I'd rather keep the 2.4 ICM and use the 2200 ICM as an interface for the coils. Its the same amount of work either way.
As far as using any coils you want, yes and no. If you use 2.2/2200 coils, you need the ICM to mount the coils onto.
Brett, I'm not sure. The Eco doesnt use a Cam sensor, it senses draw across the coil to determine what stroke the cylinder is on.
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same to you boo2point4sted
in that pic I was using the 2.2 ICM and coils, I since then put the 2.4 ICM and neon coils on. You can use the 2.2 coils with the 2.4 ICM you would have to take it apart and find the 3 wires though, shouldn't be that hard... just look at the wiring diagram, the wires are there.
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ge_forcez22 wrote:in that pic I was using the 2.2 ICM and coils, I since then put the 2.4 ICM and neon coils on. You can use the 2.2 coils with the 2.4 ICM you would have to take it apart and find the 3 wires though, shouldn't be that hard... just look at the wiring diagram, the wires are there.
I seen your post in the other thread about the pic, and thats what we've done for our setup. We use the 2.4 ICM, run a adapter harness from it to the 2.2/2200 ICM. We gut the 2.2/2200 ICM and solder in jumper wires that connect the 2.4 trigger wires to the 2.2 coils, turning the 2.2/2200 ICM into a coil interface.
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This was also posted in the other thread, which is now locked as it's a duplicate topic.
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How about we get back to the topic at hand. Unless someone took their work to a patent attorney first, stop worrying about who came up with the idea and be glad that someone is actually acting on it.
Also, if you're "really" that worried about the origination of the idea, it was originally discussed in late 2003 and early 2004 by JimmyZ. That project was a simple bolt-on upgrade kit that converted the DIS ignition completely to MSD DIS-2, MSD coils and MSD wires. It was abandoned because it was intended to be a complete bolt-on kit to include the DIS unit, coils and everything and there were warranty issues with the MSD DIS units being mounted in high-heat areas.
So anyway, back to the topic at hand. That would be the kit and methods to change to plug wires on a DIS motor. If you're after credit or accolades, patent your work before you release it publicly but please don't fight about it here.
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Wow someone actually likes my idea. Time isn't an issue for me, I would much rather have this thing go off smoothly and everyone be happy. Sounds like you have a little R&D to do before you bring this to "market" Keep us updated.
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Shawn McKenzie wrote:Wow someone actually likes my idea. Time isn't an issue for me, I would much rather have this thing go off smoothly and everyone be happy. Sounds like you have a little R&D to do before you bring this to "market" Keep us updated.
Very true. I wanted to see what kind of interest this had so now i know its going to be a hit i will push to get it done faster then expected. Im still trying to figure the best possible combo to make this A. Inexpensive and easy to install and B. Reliable due to the fact that most of rely solely on our Jbodies for transportation so i dont want anybody to be stuck on the side of the road because of a problem from the kits we decide to release
ill be happy to be a prototype car for ur project...ill get pics and possibly a video of the easy startup
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I seen your post in the other thread about the pic, and thats what we've done for our setup. We use the 2.4 ICM, run a adapter harness from it to the 2.2/2200 ICM. We gut the 2.2/2200 ICM and solder in jumper wires that connect the 2.4 trigger wires to the 2.2 coils, turning the 2.2/2200 ICM into a coil interface.
Thats awesome man
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Wrench Monkey,
Pictures sent, though I will have to take better pics of the harness
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I was going to be doing this swap using just the 2.2 coils and ICM, whats the advantage in using both the 2.2 and 2.4 ICM?
the 2.2 icm is used as a interface module. It makes it so you dont have to hack up the stock wiring so that you can take it off if need be.
If you use the 2.4 ICM you don't have to hack anything up either. Just unplug the 3-wire plug and go from there (grab another clip from wrecker) and pull the booties off and you will have room for plug wires.
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What exactly would stop you from running the MSD coil made for the DIS ignitions on some mitsubishi's, its a two channel input and four post spark tower setup?
I've been considering just splicing in wires and see if it works.
alright, because I've got exactly whats on the left in this picture (sorry for stealing your pic garrett):
and I've got the harnesses that plug into those two places. Do I not just need to splice those wires to their corresponding colors on the stock 2.4 harness that plugs in at the end of the IDI cover?
Mr. Dirtbag wrote:alright, because I've got exactly whats on the left in this picture (sorry for stealing your pic garrett):
and I've got the harnesses that plug into those two places. Do I not just need to splice those wires to their corresponding colors on the stock 2.4 harness that plugs in at the end of the IDI cover?
yes you do have to splice into the factory harness. however i do have the plugs/harness available so that its just a "plug n play" deal.
there is no point in using the 2.4L ICM when doing this swap, its just "extra" steps to take thats all. Either way it will work, no way is better than the other so which ever way it gets done will work.
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I was just looking.. and I was thinking.. hey that looks like my work bench, AND my bottle of Brake Fluid, lol, nice... the wire colors are all the same, and the wiring diagram is at the top of this page.. you can also get it on that "rebsco, rrcc" site on the heights, just search for that and you will get the link.
twisted, when are you turbocharging something?
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So if this was produced what would the consumer have to do to their cars to use the product. I have my car off the road for winter so am contemplating just doing it myself. What would we have to do to install this with the "kit" so to speak.
Sounds like its moving along nicely.
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