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2.3 oil pump swap, and the machine shop
Friday, November 11, 2005 11:03 AM
So I have 2 blocks down at the machine shop (Borchardts), they've been there for 2 1/2 weeks, and this morning they call me about drilling the holes for the oil pump swap.

He says they have no problem with the first hole (the vertical 1.5" hole) but don't know what angle to do the second hole at. I gave him all the info, including pictures of it (the method used by Protomec).

Anyone have any info I can give them about this? An aprox. angle to drill at? or maybe I should just tell them to forget it ($65 an hour) and try and do it myself in my garage....... IDK

thanks guys.




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Re: 2.3 oil pump swap, and the machine shop
Friday, November 11, 2005 12:33 PM
best would be to talk with todd about it







Re: 2.3 oil pump swap, and the machine shop
Friday, November 11, 2005 12:58 PM

I just e-mailed you a big file with about 60 pic's. If it doesn't get through let me know and I'll weed out some of them.





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Re: 2.3 oil pump swap, and the machine shop
Friday, November 11, 2005 1:02 PM

BTW , I've done 3 of them now. It takes about 45 mins. if you have some good hand tools.
Of course if you have access to a mill it's alot better.






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Re: 2.3 oil pump swap, and the machine shop
Friday, November 11, 2005 6:29 PM
john317 wrote:I just e-mailed you a big file with about 60 pic's. If it doesn't get through let me know and I'll weed out some of them.


Hell yea you did, those are some awsome pics. Thanks a million.

I stopped down at the machine shop before work, and talked to the machinist. I guess the info I had gave him confused him, and just wanted to clerify things with me. (wish I had gotten these pics before I left, but I might print them and drop them off tomorrow) He's seems confident that he can 'get 'er done' w/o a problem know though. (still going to bring the pics to him, just hit print....... its a work printer, so what the hell)

I hope to have both blocks here by next weekend, and get to work on putting mine and Tom's (Wrench Monkey) engines back together. I need to drive my car before snow flies....... I have to....... lol.

Again, thanks Gary for the pics.




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Re: 2.3 oil pump swap, and the machine shop
Friday, November 11, 2005 10:20 PM
Is there any way that I could get a hold of those pictures too????? I'm in the process of doing this myself and could use all of the visual help I can get. Thanks.





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Re: 2.3 oil pump swap, and the machine shop
Saturday, November 12, 2005 6:50 AM

Send me your e-mail addy...





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Re: 2.3 oil pump swap, and the machine shop
Saturday, November 12, 2005 10:48 AM
Dieselld@hotmail.com

Thanks agin in advance.





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Re: 2.3 oil pump swap, and the machine shop
Saturday, November 12, 2005 12:46 PM
ya me too I am doin it soon already got the parts

czapskikandykav@hotmail.com



Re: 2.3 oil pump swap, and the machine shop
Saturday, November 12, 2005 1:28 PM

Done and done.





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Re: 2.3 oil pump swap, and the machine shop
Saturday, November 12, 2005 1:52 PM
Hey Gary if you have time can you email them to me as well?

Thanks alot!
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Re: 2.3 oil pump swap, and the machine shop
Saturday, November 12, 2005 3:18 PM
you should just make a how-to or a sticky if you have time since i'm sure this is going to be a common question soon. it would make things easier for everyone including yourself. and if you don't want to..can i get a copy too volumeking333@hotmail.com



Re: 2.3 oil pump swap, and the machine shop
Saturday, November 12, 2005 4:32 PM
damn I'm slow....... just signed on, seen others wanted the pics, and started to forward them..... till I noticed Gary was all over it.

I have 2 "How To's" saved, with pics..... but now I have these pics to go with it, its 100% better.




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Re: 2.3 oil pump swap, and the machine shop
Saturday, November 12, 2005 10:19 PM
Gary, you got mail.





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Re: 2.3 oil pump swap, and the machine shop
Saturday, November 12, 2005 10:22 PM
Gary, never mind......got them. Thanks a ton.





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Re: 2.3 oil pump swap, and the machine shop
Sunday, November 13, 2005 6:57 AM
could you email me also. would appreciate it.

oldsman@sbcglobal.net


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Re: 2.3 oil pump swap, and the machine shop
Sunday, November 13, 2005 7:08 AM
Diesell

Since you have a 95 wouldn't be easier to get a pre 95 2.3 block and start with that??? Then you don't have to do all the machine work.




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Re: 2.3 oil pump swap, and the machine shop
Sunday, November 13, 2005 5:53 PM
i want them too!!!
can someone send them to me please?
magicien11@videotron.ca
thanx!!!





Re: 2.3 oil pump swap, and the machine shop
Monday, November 14, 2005 4:49 AM
Just to remind you guy's... There are some holes that need to be tapped and plugged. As well as changing the drive gear on the crank and a few other details. Plus you have to modify the oil pan.

I don't have time to do a write up right now but I think there is a post on here some where about it.

And DON'T use the one that tells you to drill out the block and press in a tube and a bunch of other silly crap...






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Re: 2.3 oil pump swap, and the machine shop
Monday, November 14, 2005 9:55 AM
Can I get those pics too I would really appreciate it?
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Re: 2.3 oil pump swap, and the machine shop
Tuesday, November 15, 2005 12:14 PM
another question...... whats the size drill bit to drill the connecting hole? From the vertical hole to the excisting oil passage? Machine shop just called, and said they have it drilled, just not sure how big to go...... I think he said he has it at 5/16 right now.

Thank you again.




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Re: 2.3 oil pump swap, and the machine shop
Tuesday, November 15, 2005 12:24 PM

Tap size for 3/8 pipe thread. 35/64 or 9/16. Then tap it and put a pipe plug in.





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"In the entire history of man the only stupid questions are the ones that don't get asked"
Re: 2.3 oil pump swap, and the machine shop
Tuesday, November 15, 2005 12:31 PM
so go to 35/64 or 9/16....... I'll email them that info

thank you.




SPD RCR Z - '02 Z24 420whp
SLO GOAT - '04 GTO 305whp
W41 BOI - '78 Buick Opel Isuzu W41 Swap

Re: 2.3 oil pump swap, and the machine shop
Tuesday, November 15, 2005 12:33 PM

If he's scared to drill it that big he can use a 7/16 and tap for a 1/4" pipe plug...





"The FACTS are always subject to CHANGE once the TRUTH is applied"
"In the entire history of man the only stupid questions are the ones that don't get asked"
Re: 2.3 oil pump swap, and the machine shop
Tuesday, November 15, 2005 12:38 PM
thanks again, this is the last thing they have to finish, before they clean it and I pick it up....... Maybe my car will be on the road soon...... *crosses fingers*




SPD RCR Z - '02 Z24 420whp
SLO GOAT - '04 GTO 305whp
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