and plus injectors you can get fo the saabs for about 130 bucks, 378cc
decent intercoolers can be found for about 200 shipped
safc can do the job right away dont need to spend 4-800$ on an emanage
I am just saying people that want boost and know their crap can cut costs considerably and tune without a dyno if they have a wideband
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Well i am debating boosting my car, but if these damn gas prices keep going up, I am sticking with my 4 banger! WTF!
Gas in Indiana right now is $2.10 for regular. By spring they say upwards of $3 for regular. If I got boosted, I would need to switch to the premium @!#$, which would be like what, $3.50?
NO WAY I can afford that on my limited income, which by the way is not going up... I don't make enough to get the fat tax breaks
Good summary Rodimas. How much you're off but either way it looks like it about a $1000 in gross profit. Factor in other costs, overhead, development that went into it, shipping, packaging cuts into that a little more. On top of that, I'm assuming its not a high volume item, so what RSm's net profit is, I don't think is unreasonable.
Again, comparing RSM's kit to other kits on the market, the pricing is not that out of line.
I live my life a 1/4 mile at a time and for those 15 seconds, I realize, I need boost.
I don't anyone is taking advantage with the price. If the business was that profitable, there would be many others making the supercharger. Come on folks, I would like to see it cheaper, too. But business is business. Think about how high the profit margin is for medicine until it goes generic, and there are hundreds of companies making pills because they think they can make money. No company researches medicine that will not return a profit. So trying to say RSM is doing something unethical is incorrect. Furthermore. I don't agree that people buy the cavalier only because it has a low price and is not as advanced as other sub-compacts. GM does not make a profit with the cavalier. It is a car that will attract buyers who will later buy other GM products. That is why the price is low. Late model cavaliers are excellent cars that are underrated by ignorant people. I test drove many sub-compacts and the cavalier was the best. It was a bonus to find the price was so low. With the supercharger, overall, the cavalier will be pretty high up the scale..There is no better car for the money and it is better than many that cost more.
ywlssport 02
Dude you claim to be edjumacated? That Canada attack was just plain old childish if you ask me. Just keep talknig...maybe you can get a few more countries to start hating America. I'm glad I have the pleasure of defending people like you in this wonderful country of ours.
It's just now cutting it's teeth.
interesting no response now that I posted the list
1989 Turbo Trans Am #82, 2007 Cobalt SS G85
ywlssport 02 wrote:Craig Lewis wrote:ywlssport 02,
You are studying to be a doctor, right? Proctologist maybe? You seem to be a specialist already.
Our monopoly on eco supercharging doesn't make your point. We sell the 2.4 the same price. Because it costs the same to make.
At least price out Vortech blowers. If you at least start there, you might not call me so many names so readily. As for the Mikes setup, I would never put a non intercooled turbo on anything. Turbos just run too hot. That kit is certainly an excellent value. Good find. It's my understanding that kit is made to get things started. It's not meant to give you all that's needed.
Our prices dropped because we now use CNC. We have a large number of components in stock. Our sale was started to shed some inventory in the slow season. You seem to be somewhat educated. I am amazed at your position on this. We have looked into getting components overseas like so many other businesses. We probably could offer cheaper prices had we done so. Instead we chose to keep things here where paying 60 year old skilled professionals cost a great deal more.
Since you made it so clear that putting money into these cars is so ridiculous, I wonder why 2500+++++++is rational for you. I wonder why anyone with such an opinion would want to be part of a community where they deem most all to be idiots.
it's clear that I can never get you to address my questions or see the light in any way. That's OK. I find you quite amusing. The most entertaining thing fo me is that your chosen profession is certainly the most profitable one around. When you realise the margins the medical profession enjoys...we can revisit our discussion.
A proctologist...... ohhh that's rich. I really got a kick out of that. As for my choice in profession, it has very little to do with how much money I'll make. That is a personal comment my friend and you don't even know me. You are just some chaud from Canada who is writing eloquent emails to try and sound like "the good guy". Listen if I want Tim Hortons or putene, I'll call you. Yes, 2500 is about all i'm willing to spend on modding a my cavy. If I was frivilous and spent a lot more, then I will probably regret not making the choice to simply go with a better car (Cobalt SS). So as I've said time and time again, if I had a lot of money to blow, I'm just going to be in a better car. I'm sorry if you fail to grasp this point. Now as I understand it, most people that own cavaliers have bought them because it is a great bang for your buck. It's no big mystery why the cavy is such a great seller when it is so far behind in advancements when compared to other sport compacts. It sells because of PRICE! Taking this into consideration (come on Craig, use common sense) most of these people in this forum are on somewhat limited funds (maybe there are a handful that are loaded). So for them to go and blow over 4 grand on buying and installing your kit, I'd imagine that they'd feel the pinch in their pocket for a while. Now it's not to say that those people who are blowing money on your kits are idiots, it's just that they are impatient and are dying for a boost in power. Even 04 ecoLS sport (who is supporting you) is indirectly agreeing with me b/c he is waiting for GM's charger. I honestly think that RSM is taking advantage of the fact that they have the only eco charger. As I've said before, let's see what you do when the GM one comes out. If it comes out and costs 2500, then I'll bet that will get your attention because your sales will go right through the floor.
haha...its poutine...not putene....
Oh yeah about that list
You left out the
-housing and pulley that attatches to the power steering housing.
-Tensioner
-Pulley for the charger
-Battery relocation trey
-FPR (they send this to people that don't get their inhouse installation)
Most of it if not all is CNC machined, and pretty high quality (I use to be a machinist).
We charged 80 dollars an hour JUST for our machine time and that was for a small swiss style turning machine that could only machine bar stock up to 21mm. Some of our other machines we charged 120 dollars an hour. Still don't think it's a good deal?
It's just now cutting it's teeth.
I am very happy with the stage 1 supercharger kit I have from RSM just as Aaron said very high quality parts. The Cd they send is easy to follow for the installation of the kit.And when they say nothing else to buy they mean it you will not regret buying one of these kits for your car.Thanks Craig and the rest of the gang at RSM great products and service.
Thats Him Officer The WICKED One.
what kinda psi you getting ^^^^
1989 Turbo Trans Am #82, 2007 Cobalt SS G85
Everything you need is right! They even send a tap for the oil pan, wich worked nice when I installed the return on my oil pan today. Doing the install slow and sweet. Probably be done by sat or sun.
It's just now cutting it's teeth.
RSM says 6 psi of boost and 60 more HP.My car is parked in my shop for the winter but I will take it to the dyno after I get every thing bolted up and let you know.Aaron will have his going very soon I am sure he will let us know how he likes it and how his car runs supercharged.Hey Aaron I think it will have Fangs!
Thats Him Officer The WICKED One.
so when we gonna see some pics of these installed?
definately gotta make some vids too.
Maybe tomorrow....maybe not
I have to install the blower, charge pipe, and battery trey.
It's just now cutting it's teeth.
i have already moved my battery to the trunk. i also considering buying the stage 2 kit, i wonder if maybe, if i did buy the kit if i could have the price of the tray removed from the total? and i have a different question. if we have the kit shipped and we install it how would we get the ecu tuned?
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if we have the kit shipped and we install it how would we get the ecu tuned?
thats what i was wondering
you pull your pcm and ship it to them , and then when itsdone they ship it back to you
hey craig how long does it take to get the ecu shipped and back (cannot go with out my car for too long)
okay, i also want to know how long. i figure the minimum possible would be 3 days if both sides overnighted the part. another question, would it be beneficial or even possible to tune the ecu for other mods like cams, adj cam gears, crank pulley, light flywheel at the same time to get the most performance out of the whole deal. i hope this doesnt sound stupid and you understand what i am trying to ask.
You should give Craig a call at RSM 1-877-855-4920 or email him Joseph.He was working a car show this weekend so he may not see your post right away.
Thats Him Officer The WICKED One.
If we understand that there is a rush...we will treat it that way. Overnighting across the border is pointless. You pay huge money, only for it to take just as long. Most of the time...the shipping takes 3-4 days. I will make every effort to make sure thigs are speedy.
We certainly take into acount the current mods on any reflash...For the most part, the computer with it's bank of sensors will adjust for most aditional mods.
I suppose we could make adjustments to the kit for certain circumstances. Removing the battery tray from a kit willl not make too much a difference...I am willing to be flexible.
The only stupid question is the one that is never asked.
Sorry to take so llong to reply. I have been at yet another car show.
chris im not really in a rush to get answers. if i buy it wont be till next year. i figure if i post the question here everybody else who has replied to this post can see the q&a, maybe cutting back on the phone calls that craig gets over and over. like he said the only stupid question is the one that is never asked. but i would hate to answer the same question 10 times. i thought that i read on your website that you had a place in illinois as well. would it be possible to have it done there or is all your work done in canada? i have seen people making comparisons to the gm kit i thought the gm kit was a different type of supercharger. it is i believe a roots type. which is good for low end power but will not give as large of an overall gain as a centrifugal blower, like the one rsm uses. please correct any part of that which is wrong. i would hate to spread untrue information, and i would hate to have it
Thats pretty much right the place in IL is High Rev which is also RSM USA, the gm is a roots type and the vortech is a centrifugal which provides a bigger gain in power, its basically a belt driven turbo
1989 Turbo Trans Am #82, 2007 Cobalt SS G85
Jenny and Dave run RSM USA for us. They certainly can do the instal.
As for the comparison. I will post a reply soon. It's a long explanation. I just don't have enough time to comunicate it well right now. The computer would be sent to heaad office for the flash.
